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I should clarify, I am not "completely" faulting the police alone. Along with the governor's obsession to do everything but anything with involving guns, he helped create an industry for hardening schools. Which made entry MORE difficult for the police. NOT so difficult though that they needed to run around looking for a custodian's key, like they were looking for a mop to use in the cafeteria. The screwups here ALL over the place with ALL eyes on Texas now, and everyone running to avoid blame that well deserves it.

Yep. When I was a kid, my classroom door didn’t lock.

Just wait until a bunch of kids die because of republicans now super-charging the “hardening“ theory by removing doors. Fires are a lot more common than school shooters.

(By the way, if you *are* going to have locks on classrooms, why don’t they all use the same key, like elevators, so that every first responder has it?)

also, honest question: is a locked door much of a hindrance to a guy with a couple of semi-automatic rifles?
 
There is an old saying, "A lock keeps honest people honest, but anyone who really wants to get past it will get past it".
Relatedly, how come when police want to serve a no-knock warrant on the wrong address they seem to have no problem getting through doors with deadbolts, locked doorknobs, and chains. But they are completely stymied by a classroom door lock for 45 minutes and have to wait for someone to deliver them a key?>
 
Relatedly, how come when police want to serve a no-knock warrant on the wrong address they seem to have no problem getting through doors with deadbolts, locked doorknobs, and chains. But they are completely stymied by a classroom door lock for 45 minutes and have to wait for someone to deliver them a key?>
You mean the Louisville No Knock warrant.

That's a special warrant, for a special police.

 
You mean the Louisville No Knock warrant.

That's a special warrant, for a special police.


Louisville wasn’t the first time, by the way. Usually, thank god, faulty no knock warrants only result in terror, false arrest, and not grievous bodily injury and death.
 
Relatedly, how come when police want to serve a no-knock warrant on the wrong address they seem to have no problem getting through doors with deadbolts, locked doorknobs, and chains. But they are completely stymied by a classroom door lock for 45 minutes and have to wait for someone to deliver them a key?>
Apartment doors are private property, which is SEP. Classroom doors are public property, which costs the taxpayers money, and the police would rather not piss off the taxpayers (we shall not speak of those large legal settlements for police misbehavior, paid for with public funds – they can just gin up a bunch of civil asset forfeitures and traffic fines to make up the difference).
 
also, honest question: is a locked door much of a hindrance to a guy with a couple of semi-automatic rifles?

Certainly will slow them down.

Technology these days is cheap. Really easy to have automatic closers on door triggered by an alarm (just like fire doors), then a magnetic lock, locks the door from the hallway.

I did read that he was able to enter the school because a teacher propped the rear door open. :mad:
 
Certainly will slow them down.

Technology these days is cheap. Really easy to have automatic closers on door triggered by an alarm (just like fire doors), then a magnetic lock, locks the door from the hallway.

I did read that he was able to enter the school because a teacher propped the rear door open. :mad:
I would take that with a grain of salt, as that was part of the police's revised story, NOT the original accounting. I fear that teacher is being offered up as a scapegoat for what later happened with the police.

It really can't be stressed enough about how a new very lucrative industry has sprung up based on an unproven concept. A concept eagerly embraced & championed by the Texas governor, that may have backfired and prevented children from being saved.

After all it was a supposed hardened door the shooter would have closed that kept the children from escaping, and the police from entering. Provided you ignore the several minutes they could have used things that SWAT teams have or Fire departments.

As I've said before, it's always going to be something else to address, and not the core issue staring one blatantly in face like a gun barrel. It's then going to become addressing issues created by addressing something else ( like your common sense answer or the answer of universal keys for one school so a police dept is not fumbling around looking for an understandably frightened janitor's keys ) instead of still addressing the issue staring everyone in the face. At which point there will be another shooting sadly, and still calls to address EVERYTHING but the obvious.

I get it. A majority doesn't want to be punished for the actions of a minority. Reality is though as long as guns are so easy to access for the majority, it will be easy for the minority that wants to use those guns for what they really are intended for. To kill people. In this country in the hands of civilians like that minority though, ...it's to kill innocent people. Buffalo.

Bonus QFT
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1530328429983408128/
 
A little bonus aside about Buffalo, that OF COURSE involves Texas somehow

This is why PoC are tired.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1530667605312172037/

But let some PoC act up, and you damn well better believe some agents will step up like their asses are on fire.

If true. Fuck.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1530671604182695936/
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1530674177878810625/

Please don't let this become a pattern. Because after reading this, it destroys your faith

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1530562484658229249/
 
Why is he wearing a shirt with his own name on it, and some phony badge?

What’s next, a fake admiral’s uniform?

What the fuck is up with all these MAGA clowns who want to play dress up?
It's a thing, like Gaetz's best boy, who liked to play dress up, carry a badge & a gun, and pull people over.

Yes. Because he got himself a badge made, carried a gun, that suddenly gave the tax collector the power to pull over a motorist. Because...


These guys have the weirdest fantasies about being some kind of uniformed official with all these great powers, but unwilling to take the risks that real uniformed officials do.
 
It's a thing, like Gaetz's best boy, who liked to play dress up, carry a badge & a gun, and pull people over.

Yes. Because he got himself a badge made, carried a gun, that suddenly gave the tax collector the power to pull over a motorist. Because...



These guys have the weirdest fantasies about being some kind of uniformed official with all these great powers, but unwilling to take the risks that real uniformed officials do.
I guess if you’re the sort of person who watches Indiana Jones movies and roots for the Nazis, you figure “hey, we need uniforms too!”
 
It's a thing, like Gaetz's best boy, who liked to play dress up, carry a badge & a gun, and pull people over.

Yes. Because he got himself a badge made, carried a gun, that suddenly gave the tax collector the power to pull over a motorist. Because...



These guys have the weirdest fantasies about being some kind of uniformed official with all these great powers, but unwilling to take the risks that real uniformed officials do.
Even governor Kathy Hochul of NY had on something with her name on it when she spoke in front of Tops. As a western New Yorker, I figured she would be a bit more modest… oh well.
 
Even governor Kathy Hochul of NY had on something with her name on it when she spoke in front of Tops. As a western New Yorker, I figured she would be a bit more modest… oh well.

New York has had a string of weirdo governors.
 
The 5th Circuit Court lifted an injunction on a social media regulation law passed by the Texas Lege and immediately enjoined by a district judge.
Texas Republicans passed their internet censorship bill, known as H.B. 20, in the fall of 2021. Its sponsors said that the legislation was necessary to prevent “West Coast oligarchs” from silencing “conservative viewpoints and ideas.” … The bill applies to social media companies with “more than 50 million active users” in the U.S. each month, like Twitter, YouTube, and Meta, that operate in Texas. … It states that these companies may not “censor” a user’s expression on the basis of their “viewpoint,” whether that “viewpoint” is expressed on the company’s platform or somewhere else. …

… also bars social media companies from labeling posts on their own websites—with, for instance, a warning that they contain violence, vulgarity, or disinformation. … And one baffling provision sharply restricts email service providers’ ability to block spam, allowing users to collect $25,000 for each day that their provider impedes “the transmission of an unsolicited or commercial electronic mail message.”

As if that does not go far enough,

The only way out of this mess, then, would be for social media companies to cease all operations in Texas. But H.B. 20 orders them to continue providing their services in Texas.

They want to require companies to do business in Texas. Because, Free Market! Or something. How could they possibly expect to force a company to provide their service in Texas if the company does not want to? Are these people insane?

Update: SCotUS reinstated the injunction that was lifted by an apellate court by a 5-4 vote. This was not an actual ruling on the legitimacy of the law itself, just a vote on the injunction. They will probably not rule on the law itself for a year or two.
 
Certainly will slow them down.

Technology these days is cheap. Really easy to have automatic closers on door triggered by an alarm (just like fire doors), then a magnetic lock, locks the door from the hallway.

I did read that he was able to enter the school because a teacher propped the rear door open. :mad:
So with the recent news that the teacher didn't prop the door open. Can we remove this fallacy?
 
Why is he wearing a shirt with his own name on it, and some phony badge?

What’s next, a fake admiral’s uniform?

What the fuck is up with all these MAGA clowns who want to play dress up?
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If Trump wins again, he can go full General Admiral Aladeen!
 
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