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Even if Biden eeks out a win and we retain the House, without the Senate, we can’t do anything.
I am absolutely embarrassed to be counted in the same group as these people.
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I think what we didn’t take into account is how many people are tired of covid and want to get back to a normal life and open everything up even it it kills people. A lot of people just don’t care about anyone but themselves. I think they felt they would get that with Trump.
I never expected this many people to vote Trump after 4 years of his crap.
I never expected this many people to vote Trump after 4 years of his crap.
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It really sickens me that over 65 millions Americans voted for this guy. I can understand last go around, because there was no clear evidence of what Trump would be like as a President, (trying to give some credit here to some of the 2016 Trump voters). However the past 4 years really showed his true colors.
I really don't understand... Why would people vote against their own interests? I mean are there over 65 Million wealthy people out there?
I really don't understand... Why would people vote against their own interests? I mean are there over 65 Million wealthy people out there?
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Woke up this morning to this, feeling like 2016 Deja vu:
...and this from the Head Shit Head:
Trump Prematurely Declares Victory As Millions Of Votes Are Still Being Counted
Trump Falsely Declares Victory As Millions Of Votes Are Still Being Counted
The president said he would go to the Supreme Court to declare him the winner, even though many battleground states have yet to release full results.
...and claims he will go to SCOTUS and ask that counting votes be stopped, which has zero precedence. And if for some reason that happens with the new balance in the Supreme Court, let the revolution begin.
One more thing, the Electoral College has got to go. With Biden ahead by 2 million votes and Trump takes this, you can blame the EC for fucking us 3 times in a row, ensuring the degradation of the Nation. And one more thing, winner takes all does not serve a split country.
And finally what kind of Country are we? Basically half of us are choosing idiocy and corruption to lead us. I have never been more discouraged about the prospects for the USA than I am today. How can we possibly win when half the team are sheep, shysters, and morons?
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I've said it before. After this election no matter who wins, it will be a time of serious reflection for the people of this country.
It will be a long while before anyone forgets that some wanted more of this administration and all the chaos & death it has wrought.
All the division, hate, and racism it has happily enabled, and many happily embraced.
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Beyond they very core of his constituency, that small concentration of voters who love Trump unconditionally, and honestly believe him to be the greatest president who ever lived, most people are voting less for him, and more for the letter behind his name.
There are people who insist on voting Republican, even if they otherwise hate the candidate. It's the reason why McConnell keeps winning in Kentucky, despite the fact that he's not exactly well loved by anyone.
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I think there is a bigger pool of Trump voters. The "quiet" Trump supporter that doesn't want family, neighbors, friends knowing that they voted for Trump, because of the stigma that comes with him. I feel sorry for those people, because you should be proud of your vote.
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Not sure how I feel about them coming out.
BTW, Team. Everyone should chill. We'll get Trump removed and although it's somewhat disappointing, it is the first step to cure the psychosis. If we don't get the senate this time around, we'll get it at the midterms.
I know it's hard to get stuff done without the senate, but removing Trump is the key for detoxication.
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I think Biden will win by a hair. It’s definitely not a resounding victory. Senate looks very disappointing. House is safe. It’s alarming how many people have voted for a racist, lying impeached criminal. There is a serious problem in America. We’re facing a moral crisis.
No, after this election, I'm pretty convinced that things will be more polarized. Us vs them. If not with us, must be against us. Trumps win in 2016 kind of mobilized all hate groups, now they are empowered and invincible. That qanon fangirl won by a pretty large margin. So that says a lot. Lindsay and evil McConnell was also elected again. People needs someone or something to hate on. it draws attention away from real issues. This is what they like and trump provides that.
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With how close it is we've already lost as a country no matter who is sitting in the oval office in January.
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I can't believe how much of a nail-biter this has turned into! I really thought that Biden | Harris would win by a huge margin, and never expected this..... Where did all of those people come from who voted for the Orange Man? I suspect that yes, there is a group of people who very quietly went to the polls and voted for him but didn't make a big thing of it and didn't tell many people, especially friends and neighbors..... ?? Others, of course, made no bones about which side they were on and those are the ones we've seen and heard, over and over, the ones proudly sporting MAGA hats and the like. Sigh.....
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I might not have picked McConnell because he's a special case. Any Senator has a lot of clout.... but a multi-term Senator who's a majority leader has more, and one who managed to help the wealthy thread a needle to paradise for four years (with Trump erratically blocking the way once in awhile because he's so incompetent) and managed to pack the federal bench, prevent removal of an impeached head of state and shepherd three of that guy's picks onto the highest court? Well such a one could practically annex a state next door for a shrine to accommodate the overflow wishing to
I shipped a few bucks to McGrath but the only way she was going to get McConnell's seat is the only way she'll still get it any time soon, which is if McConnell's seat becomes vacant due to his declining health and the Kentucky governor Andy Beshar (a Democrat) is still in office and decides to appoint her.
But I completely agree w/ your assessment otherwise. And the confusion that analysts have this morning when looking at outcome drift by party so far (either way) signals agreement also. There are people who
just want to revive a Republican Party without Trump atop it, and
people who just want the Senate to stay red because they prefer divided government and hoped Trump would get the boot but weren't sure of course and so sighed and went full on red in 2020, and
people who will almost always vote a particular party line because the other major party is the devil incarnate.
The Trump fanatics --the road show rally groupies and the intimidating caravan artists, who may be somewhat disparate-- are clearly not in the first two categories and it's not entirely clear to me they're in the third one either. They're authoritarian followers, to borrow the term from that book by Bob Altemeyer and John Dean, "Authoritarian Nightmare: Trump and His Followers".... which is a pretty good read btw.
Past that, who the hell knows. Whoever shows up at the polls to vote is motivated by something and it's not necessarily rational, or in self-interest, or in a perceived national interest either. And a vote for Trump AGAIN that's not based in much more than a bird flung at "the establishment" -- which is now in fact Donald Trump's establishment-- amounts to "it's a free country, right?"
Well, yeah. Freedom to express political dissent is in fact one of the cornerstones of our brand of democracy, regardless of more particular provenance or any claim to rationality.
The problem with the authoritarian followers of a would be king of 'murica is that their idea of freedom is peculiar and doesn't leave room for dissent or disruption not created by themselves. And Trump himself doesn't talk much about freedom in anything but a pro forma way in speeches he gives from a teleprompter. He mostly talks about how he's persecuted and how his followers are persecuted and how mean everyone is to him and how he's gonna fix that, you watch.
I'll be happy at this point just to see Trump gone from the White House in January. It means that administration including white supremacist policy advisor Stephen Miller gets swept outta there too. There are a lot of concerns about a transition but at least it looks this morning like there will BE one.
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Y'all need to give the apparent President Elect a chance to try to shift gears here, no?
We've been gaslighted and tweeted at for four straight years by an amoral narcissist whose only waking thought past the need to update his enemies list is "what's in it for me?"
So it's been awhile since anyone patted us on the head and gave us a treat, yes? Most of us are good dogs, not creatures too abused to do anything more than snarl in fear and rage
It will be time to hold the media's feet to the fire if they don't cover Biden-Harris more than they cover whatever antics Trump is up to after January 20. Do they want to keep driving the wedges Trump planted amongst us or do they want to report news we can use. We can use a fucking break from Trump Trump Trump on page one and top of all news oriented search engine results.
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Yep. Mailed, and not delivered to the ballot processing location, just sitting in USPS storage somewhere.
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All for detoxication!
So now I see a chance that all my predictions coming true on the electoral race:
MI, WI, AZ, GA, and even PA as they have mail-ins left.
Senate is friggin confusing though. So Democrats have 48 seats I expect.
Collins could lose, if the remaining votes are predominantly mail ins. But that's very narrow.
Georgia will have a January run-off.
What happens if both parties get 50 seats?
