The fall of Tesla

Cmaier said:
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Well that is a bummer, I think.

I assume the smart folk would get out before Wednesday's earnings report for luminar. Velodyne seems to have gotten a bump too, but not as much.
 
Interesting read on the history of Tesla stocks rising and falling over the years. I suppose there's always a chance it can bounce back, as it has before, you just have to wonder how when people are afraid to buy them.

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Coming into Monday, Tesla stock dropped for eight consecutive weeks—losing 41% over that span. It’s the worst weekly losing streak for the stock ever.

Tesla shares have had some epic losing—and winning—streaks.

Shares dropped for five consecutive weeks in 2024, and six weeks in 2023, according to FactSet data. Shares dropped for 12 out of 16 weeks at one point in 2022. But there hadn’t been an eight-week losing streak until 2025.
 
Eric said:
Interesting read on the history of Tesla stocks rising and falling over the years. I suppose there's always a chance it can bounce back, as it has before, you just have to wonder how when people are afraid to buy them.

Source:
Coming into Monday, Tesla stock dropped for eight consecutive weeks—losing 41% over that span. It’s the worst weekly losing streak for the stock ever.

Tesla shares have had some epic losing—and winning—streaks.

Shares dropped for five consecutive weeks in 2024, and six weeks in 2023, according to FactSet data. Shares dropped for 12 out of 16 weeks at one point in 2022. But there hadn’t been an eight-week losing streak until 2025.
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tesla won’t succeed as a car company, but Musk will turn it into a military contractor and rake in the bucks.
 
Cmaier said:
tesla won’t succeed as a car company, but Musk will turn it into a military contractor and rake in the bucks.
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Nah the assets will get bought by someone. The charging network in the US is worth something with everyone switching over to NACS (I mean that may not happen). The NN work for FSD is probably worth something (at least the GPU hardware for training is). Maybe the factories are worth something to a Chinese brand wanting to build vehicles in the US.

SpaceX is already more useful to the military than Tesla would ever be. Unless you actually think they could get working robots for war useable faster than DARPA.
 
diamond.g said:
Nah the assets will get bought by someone. The charging network in the US is worth something with everyone switching over to NACS (I mean that may not happen). The NN work for FSD is probably worth something (at least the GPU hardware for training is). Maybe the factories are worth something to a Chinese brand wanting to build vehicles in the US.

SpaceX is already more useful to the military than Tesla would ever be. Unless you actually think they could get working robots for war useable faster than DARPA.
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That scares me more than anything. It's like no one saw Terminator!
 
rdrr said:
That scares me more than anything. It's like no one saw Terminator!
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I guess. Everything DARPA (really anything DoD pays for) does is so that we can kill people more effectively/efficiently. Having robots do it supposedly minimizes our own (USA) loss of lives when on a battlefield. Of course power is going to be an issue, they have to charge sometime. No one has cracked that nut (cold fusion) yet (at least publicly, lol).
 
diamond.g said:
SpaceX is already more useful to the military than Tesla would ever be. Unless you actually think they could get working robots for war useable faster than DARPA.
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i don’t understand what you are saying. What does usefulness have to do with it? If Musk wants the government to buy 100,000 cyber trucks with machine guns bolted to the roof, then the government will buy it. Just like they are buying spacex terminals when fiber makes more sense.
 
Cmaier said:
i don’t understand what you are saying. What does usefulness have to do with it? If Musk wants the government to buy 100,000 cyber trucks with machine guns bolted to the roof, then the government will buy it. Just like they are buying spacex terminals when fiber makes more sense.
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one bullet and the panels will fly off.
 
Wrote the company that manages our portfolio today and asked them to ensure we do not purchase any Tesla stock. Sometimes they'll add big corporations without us knowing as part of a package.

Hi Eric,

I have added a security restriction so this will not ever by purchased in the account. And FYI there is currently no TSLA stock so I think we're all set. Let me know if you need anything else!

Best
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Eric said:
Interesting read on the history of Tesla stocks rising and falling over the years. I suppose there's always a chance it can bounce back, as it has before, you just have to wonder how when people are afraid to buy them.

Source:
Coming into Monday, Tesla stock dropped for eight consecutive weeks—losing 41% over that span. It’s the worst weekly losing streak for the stock ever.

Tesla shares have had some epic losing—and winning—streaks.

Shares dropped for five consecutive weeks in 2024, and six weeks in 2023, according to FactSet data. Shares dropped for 12 out of 16 weeks at one point in 2022. But there hadn’t been an eight-week losing streak until 2025.
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Somehow I don't think public opinion or the market is going to just forget about Musk's Fascist Nazi destroying global democracies phase if for no other reason than it's not just a phase. But Porsche and Hugo Boss survived Nazi Germany, so who knows.

Actually, the market might easily forget since with all the chaos going on right now the only thing it seems to give a damn about is tariffs. Other than that, nothing to see here as far as the market is concerned.
 
Chew Toy McCoy said:
Somehow I don't think public opinion or the market is going to just forget about Musk's Fascist Nazi destroying global democracies phase if for no other reason than it's not just a phase. But Porsche and Hugo Boss survived Nazi Germany, so who knows.

Actually, the market might easily forget since with all the chaos going on right now the only thing it seems to give a damn about is tariffs. Other than that, nothing to see here as far as the market is concerned.
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This is what I was thinking too, the only thing that gives me pause is wouldn't sales need to pick back up before anyone would want to buy those stocks?
 
Cmaier said:
i don’t understand what you are saying. What does usefulness have to do with it? If Musk wants the government to buy 100,000 cyber trucks with machine guns bolted to the roof, then the government will buy it. Just like they are buying spacex terminals when fiber makes more sense.
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I guess I don't see Tesla vehicles being used the same way a Humvee is used (or APC). But you could be right.

I was under the impression that the star shield satellites belong to DoD not SpaceX, though I guess you are probably right on the terminals. I know the Navy wants to use them for some of their fleet.
 
Eric said:
This is what I was thinking too, the only thing that gives me pause is wouldn't sales need to pick back up before anyone would want to buy those stocks?
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The finance industry has been drunk on vibes for quite some time, and not just for Tesla. Financial and fundamental reality seems to be of no relevance. I have my suspicions that the main reason it hasn't collapsed already is because much of the market is owned by relatively few people who are able to game it and keep it artificially high.
 

Tesla Insurance Rates Set To Spike As Cars Become Vandalism Targets​

  • Tesla is already one of the most expensive automotive brands to insure.
  • Insurers warn that rates could soon go up as activists are vandalizing Teslas over CEO Elon Musk's political meddling.
  • Owners have no recourse short of selling their cars.
Source: InsideEVs
 
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Tesla removed from Vancouver Auto Show

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Tesla has been removed from the Vancouver Auto Show on the eve of the event, organizers announced Tuesday.

Elon Musk’s company will no longer be an exhibitor and all references to Tesla have been removed from the show’s website, a move that comes as the billionaire faces backlash for his alliance with President Donald Trump amid a trade war between Canada and the U.S.

“The Vancouver International Auto Show has removed Tesla as a participant in this week’s event, after the automaker was provided multiple opportunities to voluntarily withdraw,” said Eric Nicholl, the show’s executive director, in a statement.
 
Eric said:
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Tesla removed from Vancouver Auto Show

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Tesla has been removed from the Vancouver Auto Show on the eve of the event, organizers announced Tuesday.

Elon Musk’s company will no longer be an exhibitor and all references to Tesla have been removed from the show’s website, a move that comes as the billionaire faces backlash for his alliance with President Donald Trump amid a trade war between Canada and the U.S.

“The Vancouver International Auto Show has removed Tesla as a participant in this week’s event, after the automaker was provided multiple opportunities to voluntarily withdraw,” said Eric Nicholl, the show’s executive director, in a statement.
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charged my car tonight at the superchargers at a dumpy little walgreens plaza on saratoga avenue (gotta make musk pay 22kw at a time). i ran into several passive aggressive people driving ICE cars really slowly, stopping for awhile for no reason, etc. to block the chargers and get in the way of the Teslas. (it got very crowded after I was there for about 15 minutes, with a line of teslas waiting to use the chargers. I got app notifications that i would be charged if I went over 80% - good luck with that Elon. You don’t even have my credit card. I get free charging, and free charging is free charging. Send me a bill. Happy to see you in court, bud!)
 
I saw one today that had a sticker explaining that the owner bought the car before Elno became crazy.

Also, I was charging at a small complex with a variety of chargers, and a Tesla showed up and plugged into one using, ffs, a chademo adapter.
 

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