The Republican Agenda 2021 and Forward

[SuperMatt]

The entirety of this post is based on a political party, the Republicans who no longer respect the law or the spirit of our Constitution. I’m not predicting this will happen, but it seems to be a distinct possibility in our near future Based soley on how the GOP has morphed into the Party of Trump, and whatever you can get away with is ok by them.

We either have leadership who honors and follows the law in good faith or they are a bunch of corrupt, back stabbing MoFos, get away with whatever you can with the support of their base, and who’s intent is to hold power at all costs. Then it becomes might makes right, fuck the law, and any obstacle to my holding power. Exaggeration? The signs are there, that this is the game at the State level.

Worst case…
As long as a majority are in control or comfortable, we will watch our liberties dissolve, real liberties, not the Right Wing my liber-tay to walk over you bull shit, but things like voters rights, equality under the law, and free speech, and people in jail just because they represent a threat to the regime.

When the fascists sieze control, at some point the seizing might trigger large scale violence, but maybe not. This woukd have to be where due process goes out the window, and it’s going to take significant numbers of people to start suffering before we ever see a revolution.

Of course what do I know? If Trump comes back because the election was actually stolen, who knows, the military could stage a coup. At this point between a corrupt Trump government (based on a stolen election) and a military coup with the promise of returning to Democracy, what would you choose? It would be a difficult choice.

And Revolution is a tough choice anyway because it could mean a lot of ”Haves” lose everything they’ve got, including their lives.

I heard an interview on the radio about why autocrats leading countries with apparent different forms of government and different priorities tend to stick together. Belarus working with Russia working with Syria, etc, etc. Their shared interest is that they need each other to handle the sanctions from the rest of the world.

So, it makes sense that Trump would befriend Putin and Kim Jong-Un. He could ruin the relationships with all our allies and then work with the autocrats to form their own bloc.

It is a disgusting conclusion to arrive at.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

The entirety of this post is based on a political party, the Republicans who no longer respect the law or the spirit of our Constitution. I’m not predicting this will happen, but it seems to be a distinct possibility in our near future Based soley on how the GOP has morphed into the Party of Trump, and whatever you can get away with is ok by them.

We either have leadership who honors and follows the law in good faith or they are a bunch of corrupt, back stabbing MoFos, get away with whatever you can with the support of their base, and who’s intent is to hold power at all costs. Then it becomes might makes right, fuck the law, and any obstacle to my holding power. Exaggeration? The signs are there, that this is the game at the State level.

Worst case…
As long as a majority are in control or comfortable, we will watch our liberties dissolve, real liberties, not the Right Wing my liber-tay to walk over you bull shit, but things like voters rights, equality under the law, and free speech, and people in jail just because they represent a threat to the regime.

When the fascists sieze control, at some point the seizing might trigger large scale violence, but maybe not. This woukd have to be where due process goes out the window, and it’s going to take significant numbers of people to start suffering before we ever see a revolution.

Of course what do I know? If Trump comes back because the election was actually stolen, who knows, the military could stage a coup. At this point between a corrupt Trump government (based on a stolen election) and a military coup with the promise of returning to Democracy, what would you choose? It would be a difficult choice.

And Revolution is a tough choice anyway because it could mean a lot of ”Haves” lose everything they’ve got, including their lives.

I think part of the problem is both parties are cowering to or not taking the deplorables seriously. Republicans are getting death threats and I think on some level Democrats are “a potential voter is a potential voter”. So most people in authority aren’t taking the Trump threat seriously. What needs to be done is both parties need to tell the Trump supporters to grow the fuck up and this isn’t about them. It’s about him. He’s not above the law. If they can’t handle that than too bad. If they think an attack on Trump is an attack on them then they need to seriously take a step back and get a grip on reality. Period. He should seriously be convicted of treason with the mess he's created. In an attempt to supposedly make America great again, all he's done is turn it into a moral shit hole country.

 

[SuperMatt]

Wisconsin is going ahead with full-on autocracy.

Wisconsin Republicans Push to Take Over the State’s Elections (Published 2021)

Led by Senator Ron Johnson, G.O.P. officials want to eliminate a bipartisan elections agency — and maybe send its members to jail.

www.nytimes.com

And last week, Senator Ron Johnson, a Republican, said that G.O.P. state lawmakers should unilaterally assert control of federal elections, claiming that they had the authority to do so even if Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, stood in their way — an extraordinary legal argument debunked by a 1932 Supreme Court decision and a 1964 ruling from the Wisconsin Supreme Court. His suggestion was nonetheless echoed by Michael Gableman, a conservative former State Supreme Court justice who is conducting the Legislature’s election inquiry.

Republican control of Wisconsin elections is necessary, Mr. Johnson said in an interview on Wednesday, because he believes Democrats cheat.

“Do I expect Democrats to follow the rules?” said the senator, who over the past year has promoted fringe theories on topics like the Capitol riot and Covid vaccines. “Unfortunately, I probably don’t expect them to follow the rules. And other people don’t either, and that’s the problem.”

Because he thinks Democrats will cheat, he thinks he can just “take over” the entire elections system. Is everybody ready for elections like they have in Belarus, where “80%” of voters picked Lukashenko even though it’s obvious he didn’t even get a majority?

I forgot to mention - the Republicans also want to charge the bipartisan elections commission with felonies. So they are literally advocating for sending the people in charge of free and fair elections to prison.

Then the Trump-aligned sheriff of Racine County, the state’s fifth most populous county, recommended felony charges against five of the six members of the election commission for guidance they had given to municipal clerks early in the pandemic. The Republican majority leader of the State Senate later seemed to give a green light to that proposal, saying that “prosecutors around the state”should determine whether to bring charges.

This is extremely dangerous, and that it is even being CONSIDERED should chill people to the bone. American can be the next autocracy if we don’t step up.

 

[Huntn]

Wisconsin is going ahead with full-on autocracy.

Wisconsin Republicans Push to Take Over the State’s Elections (Published 2021)

Led by Senator Ron Johnson, G.O.P. officials want to eliminate a bipartisan elections agency — and maybe send its members to jail.

www.nytimes.com

Because he thinks Democrats will cheat, he thinks he can just “take over” the entire elections system. Is everybody ready for elections like they have in Belarus, where “80%” of voters picked Lukashenko even though it’s obvious he didn’t even get a majority?

Unless there is serious pushback to this nonsense we are fucked. Ok, I get kudos for stating the obvious. The sad thing is that when I think of Wisconsin, I think liberal State. The cancer is spreading everywhere. Maybe it is just time for US Democracy to die or be reborn? It is in our collective hands.

 

[SuperMatt]

Unless there is serious pushback to this nonsense we are fucked. Ok, I get kudos for stating the obvious. The sad thing is that when I think of Wisconsin, I think liberal State. The cancer is spreading everywhere. Maybe it is just time for US Democracy to die or be reborn? It is in our collective hands.

Wisconsin is an example of extreme gerrymandering. The state is slightly more liberal than conservative, but in 2011 the Republicans created a situation where they can get a supermajority in the legislature despite a minority of votes statewide.

Unlike 2011, Gerrymandered Maps in Wisconsin Won’t Sneak Up on Voters

Republicans won’t have the map-drawing dominance they had in 2011, but national groups for non-partisan redistricting are still watching closely.

upnorthnewswi.com

Gerrymandering should be illegal. It is anti-democratic.

 

[Huntn]

Wisconsin is an example of extreme gerrymandering. The state is slightly more liberal than conservative, but in 2011 they created a situation where they can get a supermajority in the legislature despite a minority of votes statewide.

Unlike 2011, Gerrymandered Maps in Wisconsin Won’t Sneak Up on Voters

Republicans won’t have the map-drawing dominance they had in 2011, but national groups for non-partisan redistricting are still watching closely.

upnorthnewswi.com

Gerrymandering should be illegal. It is anti-democratic.

Well this is so obviously undemocratic, you could say we are already screwed if this is now the satus quo. I don’t see a solution other than protests in the street or revolution, however I am not advocating the latter as it could likely equate to the burn it down and start over solution. I’m advocating that the majority get off there asses and actually do something physical, march on your State houses.

It’s like this, when you are dealing with a corrupt, rule breaking party, who claim, now that we created them, these are the unbreakable rules, we are now Russia, and talking to Republicans is a waste of time. And convincing the masses this is bad for them, for some reason, seems like that’s an impossibility. Maybe this is our destiny until some large groups actually stand up against corruption.

Ironically it might this kind of blatant stealing of future elections that will trigger the physical stuggle for the soul of America. It is especially heinous that those who are in the process of stealing elections claim that 2020 was stolen. This is the ultimate Kool-aid for selfish dummies.

 

[Herdfan]

Gerrymandering should be illegal. It is anti-democratic.

While I agree, do you worry that some of the heavily minority districts would go away and cause there to be less minority representation in Congress?

 

[SuperMatt]

While I agree, do you worry that some of the heavily minority districts would go away and cause there to be less minority representation in Congress?

With GOP-led gerrymandering in Wisconsin (for example) the number of black members in their state legislature DECREASED. And they only have 2 latino representatives despite the rapidly growing population in the state.

Wisconsin got a gerrymandering map thrown out because it split a mostly Latino district in two, hoping to remove that latino member from the legislature.

I don’t know who is spreading the lie that gerrymandering somehow leads to more minority representatives in government. The exact opposite is true.

Opinion | Gerrymandering's burdens are borne by communities of color

Americans deserve a government that mirrors more than the Mayflower.

www.nbcnews.com

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/09/how-a-widespread-practice-to-politically-empower-african-americans-might-actually-harm-them/

Does the Anti-Gerrymandering Campaign Threaten Minority Voting Rights?

We tested the theory — which has been put forward by both Democrats and Republicans.

www.brennancenter.org

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

I honestly think a lot of Republican politicians and voters can’t see past the next election. This is 100% a sporting event to them and they don’t care about or can see consequences down the road.

People can pull plenty of failed socialist/communist states out of their ass. Are there any examples of successful authoritarian states where people love their existence and think it’s awesome?

BTW. The mentality that makes people believe in the American dream is the same mentality that makes people believe the horse shit Republicans are selling, opposite sides of the same coin. Ignore evidence, statistics, and facts. Just go with what you want to believe.

 

[Huntn]

While I agree, do you worry that some of the heavily minority districts would go away and cause there to be less minority representation in Congress?

Voting precincts should be established by non-partisan commissions based on logical geographic boundaries, not ensuring your unpopular party wins elections that it should not.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

ensuring your unpopular party wins elections that it should not.

But that’s Republican’s entire platform right now.

 

[Huntn]

But that’s Republican’s entire platform right now.

The GOP is the equivalent of human beings who has been turned into vampires, except these vampires no longer feels the need to hide in the shadows. The GOP exists as a political force because rural areas whites have been turned, arguably broken bad along with their masters, and the con artists, and there are enough of these down home ___________(fill in the blank), idiots, dummies, racists, evangelists, infiltrators, selfish anti-democracy zealots who care nothing about the Constitution and blatant corruption and dishonesty as long as they perceive their prejudices are catered too.

Sadly in the case of these “winners”, prejudice trumps all. The total focus of turning to the GOP and feeling favored is based on the worst aspects of humanity, racism, extreme evangelism, a variety of prejudices that have really nothing to do with quality of life, but are directly related to the dark side of mankind. This has gone so far that blatant lies, and destruction or transformation of the Federal Govt into a fascist organization is A-Ok, even if they make me their bitch, I’m good as long as I get to exert my prejudices on others.

Otherwise, the Democrats would be the easy choice for average struggling citizens, But see, they (Democrats and liberals) spend too much time catering to “unworthy“ struggling citizens like LGBT, minorities, and immigrants. This is anathema, kryptonite to the racist and/or, corrupted pseudo-Christian brain.

The GOP exists today only because of the dark side of humanity. Have you listened to how the average Republican politician raves these days, fabricating all manner of offenses to appeal to the dummies back home? Most of their lower class minions, because of their prejudices, willingly back a party who views them as glorified slaves.

In essence:
As long as I can kick some nigger, fereigner, or fag in the ass as I see fit or shove my pseudo-Christianity down your throat, I’m good with GOP no matter how big a pack of crooks and liars they are, no matter if our democracy turns into a smoking ruin, I can be me.

 

[SuperMatt]

The GOP is the equivalent of human beings who has been turned into vampires, except these vampires no longer feels the need to hide in the shadows. The GOP exists as a political force because rural areas whites have been turned, arguably broken bad along with their masters, and the con artists, and there are enough of these down home ___________(fill in the blank), idiots, dummies, racists, evangelists, infiltrators, selfish anti-democracy zealots who care nothing about the Constitution and blatant corruption and dishonesty as long as they perceive their prejudices are catered too.

Sadly in the case of these “winners”, prejudice trumps all. The total focus of turning to the GOP and feeling favored is based on the worst aspects of humanity, racism, extreme evangelism, a variety of prejudices that have really nothing to do with quality of life, but are directly related to the dark side of mankind. This has gone so far that blatant lies, and destruction or transformation of the Federal Govt into a fascist organization is A-Ok, even if they make me their bitch, I’m good as long as I get to exert my prejudices on others.

Otherwise, the Democrats would be the easy choice for average struggling citizens, But see, they (Democrats and liberals) spend too much time catering to “unworthy“ struggling citizens like LGBT, minorities, and immigrants. This is anathema, kryptonite to the racist and/or, corrupted pseudo-Christian brain.

The GOP exists today only because of the dark side of humanity. Have you listened to how the average Republican politician raves these days, fabricating all manner of offenses to appeal to the dummies back home? Most of their lower class minions, because of their prejudices, willingly back a party who views them as glorified slaves.

In essence:
As long as I can kick some nigger, fereigner, or fag in the ass as I see fit or shove my pseudo-Christianity down your throat, I’m good with GOP no matter how big a pack of crooks and liars they are, no matter if our democracy turns into a smoking ruin, I can be me.

Growing up in WNY, most people were “conservative” in the sense of saving money and being pretty religious….. but also strongly in favor of unions, as union members themselves. When a lot of companies decided to move production overseas, the laid-off workers were upset at them initially, but I saw the GOP worked with the big companies to demonize the unions and blame them instead of the greedy business owners. So, over time, a lot of people became easy targets for a charlatan like Trump, promising to bring back the “good old days” of American manufacturing… and making scapegoats as fake reasons for the problems.

 

[Huntn]

Growing up in WNY, most people were “conservative” in the sense of saving money and being pretty religious….. but also strongly in favor of unions, as union members themselves. When a lot of companies decided to move production overseas, the laid-off workers were upset at them initially, but I saw the GOP worked with the big companies to demonize the unions and blame them instead of the greedy business owners. So, over time, a lot of people became easy targets for a charlatan like Trump, promising to bring back the “good old days” of American manufacturing… and making scapegoats as fake reasons for the problems.

I agree and my point has been and will continue to be prejudice robs human beings of their good sense. This is why charlatans can easily find an angle to influence prejudiced people. And I admit it can be argued we are all prejudice in some manner, to some degree, but it is specifically those dark prejudices that make the Trump minions easy to control In the political arena.

One example, could you ever have imagined people who describe themselves as devote Christians every embracing a scum bag like Trump? It’s freaking mind boggling.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

It’s sad that we seem to only use the term that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it in reference to extreme cases like Hitler. People in power have been pointing their fingers at the poor and immigrants as the cause of all our problems probably for at least all of recorded history while they consolidate even more wealth and power and yet a good chunk of the population still buys their bullshit. Their limitless greed has brought us to this tipping point when they could have pumped the breaks on their raping and pillaging of the economy a long time ago and they’d still be doing great.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

I agree and my point has been and will continue to be prejudice robs human beings of their good sense. This is why charlatans can easily find an angle to influence prejudiced people. And I admit it can be argued we are all prejudice in some manner, to some degree, but it is specifically those dark prejudices that make the Trump minions easy to control In the political arena.

One example, could you ever have imagined people who describe themselves as devote Christians every embracing a scum bag like Trump? It’s freaking mind boggling.

I think a key difference between people on the left and people on the right is people on the left want everybody to do better including those we don’t agree with and possibly don’t even like, with some exceptions. People on the right want to punish or withhold from people who aren’t part of their group believing that is the only way people in their group will benefit and it will reinforce some kind of superiority, earned or birthright.

 

[SuperMatt]

It’s sad that we seem to only use the term that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it in reference to extreme cases like Hitler. People in power have been pointing their fingers at the poor and immigrants as the cause of all our problems probably for at least all of recorded history while they consolidate even more wealth and power and yet a good chunk of the population still buys their bullshit. Their limitless greed has brought us to this tipping point when they could have pumped the breaks on their raping and pillaging of the economy a long time ago and they’d still be doing great.

Agreed. And some of the super-rich offer nothing valuable to the world. If Amazon went out of business tomorrow, everything sold there would still be available. You’d just buy it from another site on the internet, or buy it at a local store. We don’t NEED a new toothbrush delivered by drone in less than 4 hours. But people LOVE convenience. That convenience is destroying the planet, hurting workers around the globe, and a very, very few people are profiting from it, big-time.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

Agreed. And some of the super-rich offer nothing valuable to the world. If Amazon went out of business tomorrow, everything sold there would still be available. You’d just buy it from another site on the internet, or buy it at a local store. We don’t NEED a new toothbrush delivered by drone in less than 4 hours. But people LOVE convenience. That convenience is destroying the planet, hurting workers around the globe, and a very, very few people are profiting from it, big-time.

…and Elon Musk frequently makes or loses billions of dollars in a day by literally doing nothing. Sorry, sometimes that happens because he fires off a Tweet. So I guess that’s not literally nothing. He crafted a Tweet worth billions.

 

[JayMysteri0]

NOTE: Absolutely NOTHING about health benefits, because well...

 

[Huntn]

NOTE: Absolutely NOTHING about health benefits, because well...

It should say Can’t Afford To Retire? Come join us in steerage, we have plenty of available oars. I find it interesting the difference in wages between Texas and Minnesota. I don’t know the lastest update but when our Grandson had worked at Whatabutger, they wanted to start him at $9 an hour, he told them $10, and just before he in the quit they had raised it to $12. In Minnesota they are paying fast food workers $15-17 an hour.