USA Election 2024

Roller said:
I know Jews who are voting for Trump despite his affinity for Nazis because they think he’d be “better for Israel.” It’s reprehensible and spits on the memory of the 6 million Jews and 5 million others murdered by the Nazi regime.
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Interesting, even those who are pro-Israel can't deny that we're supplying them with enough weapons to slaughter thousands of innocent Palestinians, and that's under Biden. How much more pro do they need us to be for chrissakes?
 
Early voted yesterday, this cycle straight Democratic ticket.

Don’t know how it is where you are, but early voting, get there before 9am, waltz in and out. Harris County , Texas where I live has changed up their voting system to include a printed piece of paper showing how your vote recorded, bar code included, and you place that in a second console that reads it and pulls it into a ballot box. Secure? Hopefully… this is Texas. 🤔

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Eric said:
Interesting, even those who are pro-Israel can't deny that we're supplying them with enough weapons to slaughter thousands of innocent Palestinians, and that's under Biden. How much more pro do they need us to be for chrissakes?
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They need us to erase and block all evidence of their operations because it makes them look like a bunch of assholes and disputes their righteous good guy propaganda. Unfortunately for them that is now out of our control.
 
There’s talk online of the coming USA Civil War. Part of me will not be surprised, but it dawned on me that you’d have to be an idiot not to understand the effect of a Civil War would have on our economy, quality of life, standard of living. Therefore, I believe there’s a much greater chance of pushing the peaceful coup, trying to fool millions of citizens, and lying as the norm to move people to your side. This is happening right now. And if it does or doesn’t work, violence can still happen 🤔
 
Huntn said:
Therefore, I believe there’s a much greater chance of pushing the peaceful coup, trying to fool millions of citizens, and lying as the norm to move people to your side. This is happening right now. And if it does or doesn’t work, violence can still happen 🤔
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I mean, just look at how authoritarian regimes work in nominally democratic societies. The thing is, we keep using the mental image of the militaristic, imperialist authoritarian. The reality is that many just want to control their own little fief, a sandbox that is ultimately “theirs” which enriches them and their family/cronies. Trump and those like him are very much the latter kind. They aren’t interested in imperialism, per se, but rather carving out their particular twisted vision of America that they can play with and mold as they see fit.

So long as enough people are making ends meet, even if it’s living hand to mouth, they will simply keep their heads down rather than take the risk. And you have the upper middle class who will mostly continue to do well even if Trump wins.

Eric said:
Interesting, even those who are pro-Israel can't deny that we're supplying them with enough weapons to slaughter thousands of innocent Palestinians, and that's under Biden. How much more pro do they need us to be for chrissakes?
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The problem is that there’s different ideas around what a “whole” Israel looks like. There are those that want to see Israel annex Gaza, the West Bank, and the Sinai Peninsula, upholding the ideas from the Movement for Greater Israel. Trump is much more open to the ideas of the right in Israel and their annexation proposals (including Netanyahu‘s recent plan to annex the Jordan Valley during Trump’s last term), unsurprisingly. So there are many on the right there that want us to support them in this.
 
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'I've changed my mind': Conservative revises prediction on Trump's future if he loses

According to longtime conservative columnist Matt Lewis, his belief that Donald Trump will fade from the political scene if he loses to Vice President Kamala Harris lessens with every day and he expects a Trump presidential run in 2028.Appearing with host Jonathan Lemire on MSNBC's "Way Too...
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In summary, even if Trump loses this race he’ll continue to be politically active and say he’s running in 2028 so he can continue grifting, get the spotlight he so desperately needs, and can use it to rhetorically fight his legal issues.

I don’t think his mental decline will allow that but he’ll continue to try from his hospice bed. But I think at some point his mental decline will prove to everyone, even his supporters, that he’s no longer living in reality.
 
Chew Toy McCoy said:
www.rawstory.com

'I've changed my mind': Conservative revises prediction on Trump's future if he loses

According to longtime conservative columnist Matt Lewis, his belief that Donald Trump will fade from the political scene if he loses to Vice President Kamala Harris lessens with every day and he expects a Trump presidential run in 2028.Appearing with host Jonathan Lemire on MSNBC's "Way Too...
www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com

In summary, even if Trump loses this race he’ll continue to be politically active and say he’s running in 2028 so he can continue grifting, get the spotlight he so desperately needs, and can use it to rhetorically fight his legal issues.

I don’t think his mental decline will allow that but he’ll continue to try from his hospice bed. But I think at some point his mental decline will prove to everyone, even his supporters, that he’s no longer living in reality.
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And if he wins we'll be looking at a Vance presidency, IMO everyone should be looking way harder at him because of this.
 
Eric said:
And if he wins we'll be looking at a Vance presidency, IMO everyone should be looking way harder at him because of this.
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He will have to get past DeSantis first.

Not sure who else on the Dem side will challenge Newsom.
 
Eric said:
And if he wins we'll be looking at a Vance presidency, IMO everyone should be looking way harder at him because of this.
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Borrowing from the book The Cult of Trump and a recent interview with David French… People discount how much people on the right viscerally hate Democrats. They’ve been fed so much negative and sometimes contradictory information that it’s killed their ability to think critically. You might be able to convince them that Harris is more of a moderate but that is overwritten by the fact that she is a Democrat. You might be able to convince them that Trump committed crimes but that’s overwritten by what they believe is primarily a political persecution by the Democrats. Democrats are always the worst option and that is often the only alternative option.
 
Huntn said:
There’s talk online of the coming USA Civil War. Part of me will not be surprised, but it dawned on me that you’d have to be an idiot not to understand the effect of a Civil War would have on our economy, quality of life, standard of living. Therefore, I believe there’s a much greater chance of pushing the peaceful coup, trying to fool millions of citizens, and lying as the norm to move people to your side. This is happening right now. And if it does or doesn’t work, violence can still happen 🤔
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This is dark, but part of the problem is we haven’t been militarily humbled on our own turf. When you are rebuilding society from rubble suddenly tampons in the boys bathroom and not using the proper pronouns are no longer the defining concerns of the time.
 
Chew Toy McCoy said:
Some of us think Vance will be President because Trump won't be able to finish his term and I think that's actually the goal of the puppetmasters behind Trump. Throw a full pardon in the pot to sweeten the deal.
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I just realized that in the alternative upside down world the sides live in this makes perfect sense.

In reality based land Biden “doing the right thing” was dropping out of the race in service of it being better for the country and party.

In Trump World Trump “doing the right thing” would be not completing his term in the service of getting a full pardon and as always only caring about himself.

In the attempt it would be interesting to see if Project 2025 Vance can successfully prevail over Hitler is Germany and Germany is Hitler Trump is America and America is Trump MAGA.
 
There is a new book coming out -who's not writing a book this days?!
"In a new biography of Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) by Michael Tackett of The Associated Press, obtained by CNN, McConnell condemned the MAGA movement and blamed Trump for making it hard for the Republican Party to compete. He called Trump “not very smart, irascible, nasty, just about every quality you would not want somebody to have.” He also went after Florida senator Rick Scott for his leadership of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the party’s campaign arm."

It reminds me of The sorcerer 's apprentice , when Mickey has lost the power to control the brooms
 
"And then there are the Republican voters, some of whom are abandoning the MAGA Republicans who are now openly embracing fascism. Today, Republican state senator Rob Cowles of Green Bay, Wisconsin, who has served for almost 42 years, announced he would vote for Democratic presidential nominee Vice President Kamala Harris. David Holt, the Republican mayor of Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, also indicated he would be casting his ballot for Harris."
Some optimism
 
Katbel said:
There is a new book coming out -who's not writing a book this days?!
"In a new biography of Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) by Michael Tackett of The Associated Press, obtained by CNN, McConnell condemned the MAGA movement and blamed Trump for making it hard for the Republican Party to compete. He called Trump “not very smart, irascible, nasty, just about every quality you would not want somebody to have.” He also went after Florida senator Rick Scott for his leadership of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the party’s campaign arm."

It reminds me of The sorcerer 's apprentice , when Mickey has lost the power to control the brooms
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yes, except he is responsible as he did nothing and still supports trump. dry up moscow mitch.
 

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