I tend to believe that if Trump wins it will destroy the possibility of a healthy conservative party for at least a generation, if not two. So if that’s what healthy conservatives are hoping for in the near future they will probably be sorely mistaken. It will be Democrats vs an even more insane Republican party for the foreseeable future. Of course, hinging on democracy remaining in tact with every election being a clusterfuck of fraud accusations.
Agreed, they would have to rebuild and in order to do that they really need to turn the page from Trumpism and get back to their core values, instead of abandoning them to placate a power hungry megalomaniac. I don't know that it will take them a generation though, it could be as soon as 2028 with a dynamic candidate, after Trump they're due for another Reagan, wasn't a fan of his policies but the guy was a uniter, not a divider.
Trump supporter and RNC official Valerie Biancaniello was cuffed and escorted out of line after multiple complaints she "harrassed" voters at a polling place.
Agreed, they would have to rebuild and in order to do that they really need to turn the page from Trumpism and get back to their core values, instead of abandoning them to placate a power hungry megalomaniac. I don't know that it will take them a generation though, it could be as soon as 2028 with a dynamic candidate, after Trump they're due for another Reagan, wasn't a fan of his policies but the guy was a uniter, not a divider.
I think Trump winning this year will all but guarantee the next President will be a Democrat. At best it will be W Bush “that was embarrassing and we’d rather not talk about it” level, but you know with Trump it won’t be anywhere near that best case. I find it highly improbable Trump could be directly followed by a sane Republican because of whatever damage he did and MAGA won’t let that happen.
Trump supporter and RNC official Valerie Biancaniello was cuffed and escorted out of line after multiple complaints she "harrassed" voters at a polling place.
It won’t work. Lost on the wackaloon Trump cult is that this is predictable behavior to drum up doubt. I say they’re working too hard at not campaigning and harder at this stupid doubt thing, which lets face it - is a waste of time, it’s all unnecessary. All Trump has to do is say “it was stolen” and that’s enough. They don’t need to create scenes or fabricate “evidence” that most teenagers with Google can debunk. This is a cult, so all Trump needs to do is give the word. The rest of this crap is superfluous.
But, I am ok with these loons exposing themselves in public, facing charges and giving democrats ammunition to say “well, they have no proof it was stolen, but we do have lots of proof of them trying to meddle.”
On an unrelated note, I went to Trump Twitter archive and searched for “Putin”. Look at how much this guy gushed over Putin during Obama’s term… dozens or hundreds of posts, including this one, which is still live..
I don't think so. "Defund" was a poor choice of words. That literally means reduce a police department's yearly budget down to $0, or significantly reduce. That sounds snappy, but I don't believe that ever happened. Clearly that can't be done.
A better phrase would have been: Re-fund the police. Meaning restructuring policing to include mental health services, citizen patrols, using other methods of policing (for example, the San Francisco police department using drones), etc. That has happened and apparently works well.
It won’t work. Lost on the wackaloon Trump cult is that this is predictable behavior to drum up doubt. I say they’re working too hard at not campaigning and harder at this stupid doubt thing, which lets face it - is a waste of time, it’s all unnecessary. All Trump has to do is say “it was stolen” and that’s enough. They don’t need to create scenes or fabricate “evidence” that most teenagers with Google can debunk. This is a cult, so all Trump needs to do is give the word. The rest of this crap is superfluous.
But, I am ok with these loons exposing themselves in public, facing charges and giving democrats ammunition to say “well, they have no proof it was stolen, but we do have lots of proof of them trying to meddle.”
On an unrelated note, I went to Trump Twitter archive and searched for “Putin”. Look at how much this guy gushed over Putin during Obama’s term… dozens or hundreds of posts, including this one, which is still live..
Part of me wants to chalk this whole mess up to EDM DJs replacing metal and industrial bands. When I was younger that’s where we got our angst out. We didn’t view politicians as gods and terrorize polling stations.
I think Trump winning this year will all but guarantee the next President will be a Democrat. At best it will be W Bush “that was embarrassing and we’d rather not talk about it” level, but you know with Trump it won’t be anywhere near that best case. I find it highly improbable Trump could be directly followed by a sane Republican because of whatever damage he did and MAGA won’t let that happen.
My feeling is that a ShitGibbon election will result in civil war or some other form of serious domestic unrest, especially if he is installed by the House after an unresolved electoral count.
On the other hand, a Harris election could also be problematic, what with all the MAGt wackjobs on the loose out there.
Five minutes in and everything Harris has said is true.
She’s an excellent speaker, I’m not going to take speech critiques from someone who thinks “we have loopholes, they are called loopholes for a reason, because they are loopholes” is not word salad. That’s one example of a thousand (or more).
You don’t have to believe me, it turns out you can believe them. For those who think Trump will help those struggling, Elon Musk says “nope! And that’s a good thing!” Austerity baby!
Oh they promise that you’ll appreciate the economy they create … eventually.
This is why I tried to explain that economic indicators were that the Biden recovery was doing really well. That doesn’t mean everyone is doing great, of course not, we had just come out of a pandemic driven recession and inflationary spiral. But my god, compared to Reagan’s “Morning in America” the current economy is incredible - indeed best in the G7. Combine that with the Trump plan to literally crash the damn economy … yeah, I’m sticking with the Biden economy being bad for the working person being conservative propaganda.
Bezos didn’t buy WaPo to make money. If you want to try to punish him it would be more productive to cancel Amazon Prime and stop buying from Amazon. But even that wouldn’t do much because of the lucrative government contracts. So there’s your answer.
Similar with Musk. Don’t buy a Tesla. If you’re paying taxes you’re still paying him through government contracts.
Five minutes in and everything Harris has said is true.
She’s an excellent speaker, I’m not going to take speech critiques from someone who thinks “we have loopholes, they are called loopholes for a reason, because they are loopholes” is not word salad. That’s one example of a thousand (or more).
Anyone calling her speech a word salad is obviously just saying that for partisan points. She is crystal clear and well spoken, much like Obama was. She also has a message free of hate and is reaching out to those she knows will disagree with her without eviscerating them, the whole thing is refreshing.
Trickle-down does not work. You grow the economy from the middle out, not the top down. It’s really not even economics, it’s basic and fundamental math. You can’t have a circle-the-drain economy where people’s wealth allows them to amass more wealth at greater rates. You won’t find me giving financial advice, but that would be what folks slow on the uptake such as myself call “rocketing into the poorhouse” for most of us.
Creating a system where those who make the most pay the least is not sustainable.
I’m sure the world’s richest man and a business tycoon fraudster will fix it all.
Anyone calling her speech a word salad is obviously just saying that for partisan points. She is crystal clear and well spoken, much like Obama was. She also has a message free of hate and is reaching out to those she knows will disagree with her without eviscerating them, the whole thing is refreshing.
Trickle-down does not work. You grow the economy from the middle out, not the top down. It’s really not even economics, it’s basic and fundamental math. You can’t have a circle-the-drain economy where people’s wealth allows them to amass more wealth at greater rates. You won’t find me giving financial advice, but that would be what folks slow on the uptake such as myself call “rocketing into the poorhouse” for most of us.
Creating a system where those who make the most pay the least is not sustainable.
I’m sure the world’s richest man and a business tycoon fraudster will fix it all.
Like Trump and a woman who is not his wife, she f******g nailed it. She was flawless and she didn’t drone on too long.
That whole thing about medicare and depleting your savings to care for your elderly parent is freaking right on. We're currently going through this and it's financially devastating for my wife's parents and once their funds are fully tapped, to qualify for care, we have to make up the difference in what they're unable to afford out of our own pockets. If you're not rich, you're fucked.
Agreed, they would have to rebuild and in order to do that they really need to turn the page from Trumpism and get back to their core values, instead of abandoning them to placate a power hungry megalomaniac. I don't know that it will take them a generation though, it could be as soon as 2028 with a dynamic candidate, after Trump they're due for another Reagan, wasn't a fan of his policies but the guy was a uniter, not a divider.
Ok, so she didn’t say what he said. And it doesn’t even get to the problem of his speech patterns. Why not say “Kamala wants to offer taxpayer funded transgender (or gender reassignment) surgery for inmates and illegal immigrants?”
I’m a dimwit on a message board who can speak more eloquently than Trump.
“On demand transgender in detention” is a mangling of speech, a lie, and does not convey the message YOU are sanitizing for Trump.
Not only that, but it’s weird how the guy who claims he is so independent somehow exactly parrots Trump campaign talking points about Harris verbatim. Especially since in the case of gender reassignment surgery for inmates was actually a policy by the Bureau of Prisons developed during … checks notes … the Trump administration. Also … seriously who gives a flying fuck? Who think that’s costing the tax payers serious money? Why is that even an issue to vote against someone for?
As the Trump campaign is slamming Vice President Harris in new ads for supporting taxpayer-funded transgender surgeries for prisoners and migrants, a NYT report shows Trump appointees at the Bureau of Prisons, a division of the Justice Department, provided gender-affirming treatments, including...
www.msnbc.com
The reality is if this were about policy Harris would win hands down.
As the 2024 presidential election approaches, we take a deep dive into the policies that registered voters support, the issues they care about, and the candidates they trust to handle them.
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When voters weren’t told whose policies were whose a majority of voters liked 89% of Harris’ policies as opposed to only 48% of Trumps (and I’d argue they were being kind in their descriptions of Trump’s policies). People don’t vote their interests as much as they vote their identity - especially conservatives. That would be ironic considering how much they howl about “DEI” and “woke-ism” leading to unqualified people getting jobs (Trump - lol), but shameless hypocrisy is baked in.
Oh and also rampant crime? Give me a damn break, we can see the fucking stats and we’re still in historical lows even if there was a local peak last year. And the cities worst hit weren’t even the supposedly lax, soft-on-crime ones - the supposedly tough on crime cities had bigger numbers, especially when adjusted for things like population density and economics. Whoa it turns out when there’s a recession crime goes up and then goes down again. Huh. Oh and again it’s still way fucking lower than historical norms. I get really pissed off with these ads I’m seeing in California, including from Democrats, trying to get elected and pass bullshit propositions by trying to scare people into believing that they are in a crime infested hell hole and get them to restart the failed war on drugs and reduce income to the programs that actually work to reduce crime, including education.
Sorry pent up venting - not really aimed at anyone. Not even Herdfan really, just very frustrating seeing us as a people make the same mistakes over and over and over again.
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