Will Kevin McCarthy become Speaker?

[GermanSuplex]

Gaetz has filed his motion to oust McCarthy. Democrats have a decision to make, and some leverage.

Vote present and allow McCarthy to remain speaker? Or vote against him? We could be in a situation similar to January. The way out is for McCarthy and sane republicans to join democrats and start governing. However, can democrats negotiate with someone who is untrustworthy?

He’s still blaming democrats for the near-shutdown; more democrats voted for HIS stopgap measure than republicans. Democrats could have voted no if they acted like republicans, and shut down the government. We are facing the same situation again, and McCarthy can’t stick to a deal. How about using this as an opportunity to shut up the clowns? Bipartisanship shouldn’t be the exception.

Rep. Matt Gaetz triggers vote to oust Kevin McCarthy from speaker's office — NBC News

Gaetz, a Florida Republican, is a conservative bomb thrower and top Trump ally on Capitol Hill. The House must vote this week on whether to keep McCarthy as speaker.

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[Citysnaps]

We are facing the same situation again, and McCarthy can’t stick to a deal.

I was a little surprised when he didn't honor the deal he made with the Dems. Can he ever be trusted again? Not in my book.

 

[fooferdoggie]

I was a little surprised when he didn't honor the deal he made with the Dems. Can he ever be trusted again? Not in my book.

republicans not honoring deal? say it ain't so.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Only need a handful of republicans to give us Speaker Jeffries, he’s probably got more votes than McCarthy tbh. Not gonna happen but it’s kinda funny to think Jeffries actually got more votes for speaker in the first few rounds of voting earlier this year.

 

[dada_dave]

If McCarthy doesn’t maintain basically full unity of the Republican caucus, he is out. Democrats won’t throw him a lifeline.

 

[Eric]

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If McCarthy doesn’t maintain basically full unity of the Republican caucus, he is out. Democrats won’t throw him a lifeline.

If he was looking for any help from Democrats he totally blew it by bashing them so hard over the weekend. I've been on the fence as I think keeping him is best but he's just such an asshole to those he disagrees with that I'm off that fence now, he made his own bed, he can lie in it. This is their own fight anyway.

 

[rdrr]

If he was looking for any help from Democrats he totally blew it by bashing them so hard over the weekend. I've been on the fence as I think keeping him is best but he's just such an asshole to those he disagrees with that I'm off that fence now, he made his own bed, he can lie in it. This is their own fight anyway.

Better the asshole we know than potentially the next asshole they put in that chair. Remember Trump got some votes a few times. Believe me I love to see him go, but I hate Gaetz winning more.

 

[dada_dave]

Better the asshole we know than potentially the next asshole they put in that chair. Remember Trump got some votes a few times.

I’d rank Jeffries getting the Speakership as more likely. Truthfully, could it be worse than McCarthy? Yeah, but honestly not by enough to go out of their way to save someone that untrustworthy and spineless - not without massive concessions which they are unlikely to get.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

There's an empty chair between Boehner and Ryan getting prepped at the local AA meeting.

 

[Eric]

Better the asshole we know than potentially the next asshole they put in that chair. Remember Trump got some votes a few times. Believe me I love to see him go, but I hate Gaetz winning more.

The problem, that Democrats are rightly pointing out, is that McCarthy has already played dirty and backtracked on promises made when it came to shutting down the Government, etc. He's showing a trend and is having a hard time earning any trust as a result. We may not agree, but when an agreement is made you need to stick with it.

Neither side seems willing to go to bat for him at this point and it's not looking good. We'll know soon I guess.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Maybe when its all said and done, the answer to the thread title will be "Yes, after 15 rounds of votes, but in name only, and not for long".

He's losing votes and democrats may not be able to help him even if they want to.

There's an empty chair between Boehner and Ryan getting prepped at the local AA meeting.

Anyone who doesn't need a meeting already will be in dire need of one after taking on the job of leading the House Republicans.

 

[Cmaier]

Based on the number of republicans who have already voted to vacate, absent a surprise, he’s out.

 

[dada_dave]

Based on the number of republicans who have already voted to vacate, absent a surprise, he’s out.

It’s official, he’s gone. Apparently unprecedented in American history.

 

[Cmaier]

It’s official, he’s gone. Apparently unprecedented in American history.

what a bunch of clowns

 

[GermanSuplex]

He could theoretically throw his name back in the hat and force another dozen and a half rounds of voting, but he's pretty much balled up tissue at this point.

This should be a good sign to MAGAts... there's no pot of gold at the end of the orange rainbow.

 

[Cmaier]

He could theoretically throw his name back in the hat and force another dozen and a half rounds of voting, but he's pretty much balled up tissue at this point.

This should be a good sign to MAGAts... there's no pot of gold at the end of the orange rainbow.

Rumor is McCarthy is going to not put his name forward.

 

[Herdfan]

Good riddance. Never liked him anyway.

Congrats Speaker Donalds.

 

[Eric]

Rumor is McCarthy is going to not put his name forward.

Would be the first time he's successfully read the room since they took the House.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

Who said Republicans couldn't get things done. They should celebrate with another tax break for the rich.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Good riddance. Never liked him anyway.

Congrats Speaker Donalds.

Not a chance. He's loud and assertive, but MAGA folks are doomed to failure. He's also going to have the same problems as McCarthy. He's also black, and despite the denials, there's no chance for him to be anything more than a prop in the Republican Party. I welcome him to find that out the hard way though.

Republicans will have a lot of theories as to why McCarthy is no longer Speaker, but I bet none of them involve the root cancer - Donald Trump and Trumpism. Instead, they'll blame Gaetz for everything, who's really just a boil on the ass of the dying cancer patient known as the modern Republican Party.

At this point, it's not really comprised of republicans, nor is it a party. It's a hodgepodge of varying degrees of conservatism and totally different ideologies, many of whom adopt a "burn it all down" approach, which actually helps nobody, including themselves.

Anyway, McCarthy really only lost a title; he's not lead this party at all since his ascension. Nine months is a good stretch for a speaker who sold the farm before he even moved in!