The 2022 Midterms

While I know it won't be a popular opinion here, I have never been a fan of one party controlling it all because neither side has incentive to work with each other on common goals. If it ends up with a balance they will be forced to work together, maybe less partisanship and attacks and more working for the people. Just my .02.
 
Eric said:
While I know it won't be a popular opinion here, I have never been a fan of one party controlling it all because neither side has incentive to work with each other on common goals. If it ends up with a balance they will be forced to work together, maybe less partisanship and attacks and more working for the people. Just my .02.
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Normally I could agree with you except when I look at the anti-democratic Republicans, we have no room in our politics, society for people who think corruption, lieing, cheating to win, and vested themselves in big fat POS. Now the POS may be in our rear view mirrors, but the stench and little turds who want to be big turds are still floating around.
 
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Eric said:
While I know it won't be a popular opinion here, I have never been a fan of one party controlling it all because neither side has incentive to work with each other on common goals. If it ends up with a balance they will be forced to work together, maybe less partisanship and attacks and more working for the people. Just my .02.
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It hasn’t worked out that way for at least two decades.
 
Cmaier said:
It hasn’t worked out that way for at least two decades.
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Yep, always "us vs them" (regardless of party) and it's why we never get anything meaningful done.
 
Using Georgia as an example, they have a population of about 10 million. Of those about 4 million people voted in the senate race. Based on how close the race is the winner will get about 2 million votes. 20% of the population is nowhere near “Half the state!”. You could probably put roughly the same calculation across the country. My war cry for the year is STOP THE “HALF THE COUNTRY” RHETORIC!
 
Chew Toy McCoy said:
Using Georgia as an example, they have a population of about 10 million. Of those about 4 million people voted in the senate race. Based on how close the race is the winner will get about 2 million votes. 20% of the population is nowhere near “Half the state!”. You could probably put roughly the same calculation across the country. My war cry for the year is STOP THE “HALF THE COUNTRY” RHETORIC!
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Well it becomes more important for winners to listen to all of their constituents when a race is close. Polarization has narrowed margins over the past three or so cycles. Races that were 66-34 for the Rs in right leaning districts in NY six years ago might have popped up as 57-45 next time around and now, hmm.. 51-46-3. That should tell a Republican it doesn't really work just to ignore angry phone calls from constituents who did not vote for him... and it suggests that engagement in clown shows like repealing ACA 70 times might not be part of a winning re-election campaign next time out.

But the Rs are slow learners and apparently first have to finish trying out the option to maybe overturn unwanted election results? Actually election results this time might be sending a message to quit trying to go there.

Meanwhile there is more pressure from progressives to make voting by mail or dropbox a permanent feature, consider ranked voting, etc. The USA likes being a democracy even if we have been trained in the more recent past that the only point of voting is to win and then ignore "losers." We all have to quit being like that to get back to more effective representative government.
 
shadow puppet said:
Apparently it's the best midterm performance for a first-term Democratic president since John F. Kennedy. Perhaps even Franklin Roosevelt.
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The world’s biggest man baby ex leader is already attempting “biggest inauguration in history” type propaganda on this, pulling a specific number of wins out of his ass that nobody can seem to connect the dots to.
 
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1590193409897078784/

Ouch.

Comment sections from Breitbart to Fox News are jumping to DeSantis and away from Trump. People posting "Trump 2024" or not critiquing him are the rarity, not the norm. Could be an anomaly or that could be the true sentiment of republicans. The elections seem to have ran mostly fine, and its going to be hard for republicans in GA or elsewhere to claim fraud when so many of their other candidates and incumbents won. The numbers tell the story - Trump-picked candidates fared more poorly, and those who distanced themselves and ran as more establishment conservatives who didn't focus on election lies did better.

Both sides also need to retool what people care about - abortion is a big issue and inflation is a big issue. Crime was not, even though republicans talk about it too much and democrats don't talk about it enough.

Part of me thinks republicans will start jumping off the Trump cult, but part of me also knows we've been here before, where republicans have a perfect opportunity to distance themselves from Trump, only to quickly develop amnesia and think he's their only salvation.
 
GermanSuplex said:
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1590193409897078784/

Ouch.

Comment sections from Breitbart to Fox News are jumping to DeSantis and away from Trump. People posting "Trump 2024" or not critiquing him are the rarity, not the norm. Could be an anomaly or that could be the true sentiment of republicans. The elections seem to have ran mostly fine, and its going to be hard for republicans in GA or elsewhere to claim fraud when so many of their other candidates and incumbents won. The numbers tell the story - Trump-picked candidates fared more poorly, and those who distanced themselves and ran as more establishment conservatives who didn't focus on election lies did better.

Both sides also need to retool what people care about - abortion is a big issue and inflation is a big issue. Crime was not, even though republicans talk about it too much and democrats don't talk about it enough.

Part of me thinks republicans will start jumping off the Trump cult, but part of me also knows we've been here before, where republicans have a perfect opportunity to distance themselves from Trump, only to quickly develop amnesia and think he's their only salvation.
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It would be sweet justice if his supporters turned their back on him because he's no longer useful, like Trump has done to virtually everybody in his life.
 
shadow puppet said:
Apparently it's the best midterm performance for a first-term Democratic president since John F. Kennedy. Perhaps even Franklin Roosevelt.
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The diminution of what might have been a red wave is on Trump and on a GOP leadership that took itself into a cul de sac by re-upping on him for 2020 -- and then not only tolerated what ensued when he lost the election and tried to overturn it, but actually defended him and other election deniers, including some that did win their races last night. The damage to effective representation in Congress is not over yet, but that also means the damage to the future of the GOP is not over yet either.

Let the clown shows begin if McCarthy gets the gavel. Constituents from 2020 had already tried to send a message that they were sick of clown shows and wanted concrete legislative progress on stuff like renewable energy, infrastructure and domestic job prospects. One wonders if the frontrunners for the GOP 2024 presidential nomination will try to have some input towards toning down the behavior of a GOP-led House as time goes on. Negative reverse coattails are a possibility if the Republican leadership overall cannot keep its House caucus from just acting out desire to burn down the federal government over "so much winning" that in fact looks like they will barely have got a majority.

By all rights since "voting with your wallet" is key during hard economic times, the midterms should have been a tsunami for the Republicans. The honchos were smart enough not really to expect that, but no one expected such a muted GOP level of winning... except maybe Mitch McConnell.
 
lizkat said:
The diminution of what might have been a red wave is on Trump and on a GOP leadership that took itself into a cul de sac by re-upping on him for 2020 -- and then not only tolerated what ensued when he lost the election and tried to overturn it, but actually defended him and other election deniers, including some that did win their races last night. The damage to effective representation in Congress is not over yet, but that also means the damage to the future of the GOP is not over yet either.
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Exactly. Although I don't fully agree with the first part of his statement, even this Trump fluffer agrees that the GOP needs an overhaul. Not only did they not get their promised red wave, the voters basically indicted the Republican party.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1590233789137289218/
 
shadow puppet said:
.... even this Trump fluffer agrees that the GOP needs an overhaul. Not only did they not get their promised red wave, the voters basically indicted the Republican party.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1590233789137289218/
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Fox and GOP pols saying it's time to move on from Trump likely make Mar a Lago servers edgy.

gonna need a bigger bottle of ketchup.jpg​
 

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