The Election Day Thread

[SuperMatt]

And to prove your point... Watch this knucklehead.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1324096011753689089/

That guy times 67 million = America 2020.

 

[Scepticalscribe]

And this is a sample of who voted for Trump? Great.

Nice people to hang out with, I'm sure. /S​

Joe Biden's a better person than I am if he manages to think inclusively about that guy...

Yes, agreed.

He is setting an impressive ethical and moral standard - and example of political leadership - that I am not entirely sure I can meet, though I respect him hugely for wanting to do so.

 

[SuperMatt]

Trump trying to sound smart by using the word "hereby" - Twitter flagging is on the ball.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1324108200141082624/

 

[lizkat]

I have just watched Mr Biden's remarks - intelligent, temperate, thoughtful, moderate, measured, mature, dignified and conciliatory. And articulate. And responsible.

And almost half of the population - knowing who he is, what he is, what he does and what he thinks - still voted for - still chose to cast a vote for - that other lunatic, that moral monster, that malignant narcissist?

Well it's clear we need not hold breath for the incumbent president of the United States to encourage his followers to be patient and await results of official counts of the 2020 vote.

That guy times 67 million = America 2020.

Yeah... well half the electorate less maybe 5 or 7 million by end of counting, probably.

It's pretty disappointing that so many voters still could stomach the idea of another term, even the start of another term, for Donald Trump.

So there's more than a little and volatile mix of anger and sadness for the USA in me today... no matter how thrilled I'll be to see the moving vans hauling away whatever Trump should perhaps not really be taking with him from the WH to Florida.

But as long as Trump exits on January 20 and his staffers are ushered off the stage at that time, I'll call it a safe reboot. We can all try to debug some of those Trump fan extensions later.

It will be important for Biden to acknowledge progressives' effort to really get behind the Democratic Party's nominee this year. Many are really young and this was the first time they pitched in and saw results of their efforts and votes actually land a Dem in the White House. If we want to keep that group in the big tent then the big tent makers better show intent to build a bigger tent platform going forward than they were willing to focus on --understandably enough, I think-- this time around. By 2022 there better be some concrete lean in the DNC and in the incoming administration towards better accommodation of a progressive wing in the Democratic Party. Folks like The Squad were not re-elected by the likes of some elderly pals of mine who may have voted straight Democratic tickets for the first time in their lives in 2020. The Squad were re-elected handily by progressive Democrats. Listen up, you old fogies in the DNC. Joe's a nice guy and probably the man for this hour. But time flies.

 

[Thomas Veil]

...At this point I don’t see how the Republican party can remove itself from Trump. The close vote proves that. They are now merged and I fully expect them to embrace it...

I do have to agree on this part. They will run Trump or Trump Jr. or some other lunatic in 2024.

The best thing that can happen is that a third party emerges. It'd be good for the Republicans and the Democrats.

No offense taken... Here's why I think what I think now.

Biden is not Obama... nor the right's perception of Obama either, which also matters....

You could be right in everything you said. I guess the weeks and months ahead will tell.

And to prove your point... Watch this knucklehead.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1324096011753689089/

Christ on a cross...

Trump trying to sound smart by using the word "hereby" - Twitter flagging is on the ball.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1324108200141082624/

He "claims" states? Someone needs to tell him this isn't the NFL and these states are not on waivers.

 

[hulugu]

I remember when elections used to be fun.

[Rant warning]

This shit is ridiculous. I spent almost the entire day masked so my beard's all fucked up, I had multiple Republicans attempt to threaten me—lol, don't write checks you can't cash dipshits—and there wasn't any pizza in the newsroom, nor beers with the political types on Wednesday morning.

[Harebrained analysis warning]

So far, Arizona looks like a blue state, with major losses for the Republican party all over at the county and state-level. Also, really interesting shift in that two Latinas will earn a state-wide office, and an Indigenous woman just won a county office. Both firsts in state. (Yeah, I'm blown away by this too.)

Meanwhile, Republican shit-weasels are spreading the dumbass theory that because some people used a sharpie their vote didn't count, so there's a movement to hand-count the ballots, and the state AG is going to "investigate" the issue. Note: election officials will duplicate any ballot that won't scan, or is otherwise damaged and will fix the issue, even if there's a double-vote or some other weirdness, rendering the whole thing moot. But, apparently Scott Baio thinks this is an issue, so we'll have to deal with this stupidity for days, weeks or months.

Baio doesn't seem to give a shit that USPS got yelled at by a federal judge for not getting some ballots in, so this will extend the election out for months.

Also, while AOC kicked ass in New York, North Carolina elected Madison Cawthorn—just by name, you know this guy's probably an asshole—a paraplegic knob who made sure to visit Hitler's Eagle's Nest on vacation. And, of course, QAnon jackass Marjorie Taylor Greene didn't get hit by a meteor, or some other act of god, so she too is heading to Congress.

Basically, 2020's motto should "man plans—god laughs."

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

And to prove your point... Watch this knucklehead.

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1324096011753689089/

That guy pretty much peaked at being the cool crazy guy everybody wanted to hang out with. Then Trump got elected. Now he’s this. Sad.

 

[Thomas Veil]

At least there's this little nicety:

Joe Biden makes history with total votes received, beating Barack Obama's record​

With votes still being counted, former Vice President Joe Biden has broken the record for most votes received by a presidential candidate and now has amassed more than 70 million.

The record was held by Barack Obama, who in the 2008 election received 69,498,516 votes when he beat John McCain, the late Republican senator.

 

[Apple fanboy]

Remind you of anyone?

 

[Apple fanboy]

At least there's this little nicety:

Joe Biden makes history with total votes received, beating Barack Obama's record​

Fake news?
Can someone please confirm if a President loses an election can they stand at the next one?

 

[Thomas Veil]

There is still a chance for the Senate...albeit not this year.

In 2022, 12 Democratic Senate seats and 22 Republican ones will be up for grabs.

History says that usually the party that is not in the White House gains seats in the mid-terms. But with ten more GOP seats open than Democratic ones, it gives the Democratic party room to maneuver.

On the other hand, there's also the chance of losing the House.

 

[Thomas Veil]

Fake news?
Can someone please confirm if a President loses an election can they stand at the next one?

A president can serve up to two terms. They don't have to be consecutive.

 

[Yoused]

The best thing that can happen is that a third party emerges. It'd be good for the Republicans and the Democrats.

It sounds appealing, on the face of it, but, what is the strongest 3rd party right now? Not the Greens. Not the SWP or CPUSA. The strongest 3rd party is the Glibertarians. Which is nothing at all like a left-wing party. They are approximately equivalent to Koch fiends.

The biggest problem here is that the Glibertarians can talk a really good game. They can sell really well, because, like the Rs, they are Monsters from the Id. Their rhetoric reaches to the things that people really want, but eschews any notion of responsibility. Dig out that gold and take it to the assay office, it is fine is you just leave a big hole in the ground or dump toxic tailings where ever you please. They say that this is not their position, that my freedoms do not supersede yours, but the math just does not work out.

And they claim to be "socially liberal", but that math does not work out either. The Glibertarian economic agenda simply does not support a socially liberal society. They can pay lip service to letting people be, but externalities of "fiscal conservatism" negate the social liberal claims.

So, the replacement party for the Republicans is worse, because they are less wrapped up in the R-stupid game, so they can slide what is effectively the RW agenda under the door without people noticing as much. If we ever do get effective left-wing organization in this country, it will not be until well after everything is already broken, burning and/or in an advanced state of decay.

 

[Apple fanboy]

A president can serve up to two terms. They don't have to be consecutive.

Ever happened? I’m guessing not. But it might take the next term of four years to evict this one!

 

[hulugu]

Fake news?
Can someone please confirm if a President loses an election can they stand at the next one?

Trump is eligible to run in 2024 if he loses to Biden this year because the 22nd Amendment limits people to two terms.

Notably, a person could be limited to only 7 years in office if they began their first term more than two years in, but a person could also theoretically serve 10 terms if they finish the president's first term, and then win two subsequent elections.

Theoretically, Harris could serve 10 years if Biden leaves office in 2022, and she wins in 2024 and 2028. If however, Biden leaves in 2021, she would be limited to one term after 2024.

Text:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of President more than once.

 

[JayMysteri0]

Haven't read it all yet, but these two parts particularly stand out to me:


and

I covered the second part in the other place. That action was so targeted it was laughable. What made the Florida legislature more mad, was when Bloomberg came in and offered to pay a portion of those fines. This resulted in calls for Bloomberg to be investigated. After all, you mess with a plan laid out, there has to be consequences.

Florida attorney general asks for investigation of Bloomberg's efforts to reinstate felon voting rights | CNN Politics

Florida's attorney general has requested that the FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigate Michael Bloomberg's efforts to reinstate the voting rights of felons by paying their fees, according to a letter to the agencies provided to CNN by the attorney general's office.

www.cnn.com

(CNN)Florida's attorney general has requested that the FBI and the Florida Department of Law Enforcement investigate Michael Bloomberg's efforts to reinstate the voting rights of felons by paying their fees, according to a letter to the agencies provided to CNN by the attorney general's office.

Republican Attorney General Ashley Moody said she requested that the agencies investigate "potential violations of election laws."
Bloomberg, a former New York mayor and 2020 Democratic presidential candidate, and his political operation have raised more than $16 million from supporters and foundations over the last week to pay the court fines and fees for more than 30,000 Black and Latino voters in Florida with felonies, allowing them to vote in the upcoming election.
The fundraising effort, according to multiple Bloomberg aides, will benefit the Florida Rights Restoration Coalition, an organization run by formerly incarcerated people who are working to make it easier for ex-felons to vote.

FDLE: No Formal Investigation Underway Into Bloomberg's Donation Paying Florida Felons' Debts

A spokesperson for FDLE says a “review,” which can include gathering evidence, is underway.

wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu

A spokesperson for FDLE says a “review,” which can include gathering evidence, is underway.​

The Florida Department of Law Enforcement has not launched a formal investigation into Mike Bloomberg’s effort to pay fines and fees for Florida felons, the agency told WFSU Monday. A spokesperson for FDLE says a “review,” which can include gathering evidence, is underway.
The FBI declined to comment Monday on whether it has opened an investigation at all.

A spokesperson for FDLE described how a review by the agency works: “It's not an investigation at this point; it's a review by FDLE agents. Once we receive a complaint, we review it to determine whether or not the allegations are criminal in nature. A review can include investigative steps, like preliminary interviews and the gathering of documents.”

Nearly two weeks ago, Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody sent a letter to the FDLE and FBI asking for an investigation into former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg’s effort to pay fines and fees for Florida felons.

In her letter dated September 23, Moody said Gov. Ron DeSantis requested her office look into the matter. The letter cites state statute making it illegal to “directly or indirectly give or promise anything of value to another in casting his or her vote.”

Also as an extra bonus:

Voters of Color in 2 Key Swing States Are Seeing Their Mail Ballots Returned at Higher Rates Than White Voters

Florida and Georgia—two crucial battleground states in the 2020 election—are rejecting mailed-in ballots from voters of color at substantially higher rates than those from white voters, according to a recent analysis by NBC News and the Democratic political data firm TargetSmart.

www.theroot.com

Florida and Georgia—two crucial battleground states in the 2020 election—are rejecting mailed-in ballots from voters of color at substantially higher rates than those from white voters, according to a recent analysis by NBC News and the Democratic political data firm TargetSmart.

According to NBC News, the data looks at mailed-in ballots across 11 different states. But what makes Georgia and Florida significant—apart from their status as swing states—is that they’ve already released numbers for ballots flagged for errors or rejection according to race and ethnicity. The two major presidential candidates are also expected to run a tight race in both states.

In both states, more than 7,900 ballots cast by Asian, Black and Latinx voters have been marked for voter errors at higher rates than their white counterparts, writes NBC News. Nonwhite Floridians have had their mail-in ballots rejected at twice the rate of white voters in the state, though there is still a chance for these voters to have their ballot counted. Election officials are supposed to contact voters who have issues with their ballots and give them until Thursday to correct their ballots. Early data shows that the reason most ballots have been rejected in the Sunshine State have been because voters didn’t sign their ballot envelopes.

In Georgia, there were more differences among nonwhite voters when it came to rejection rates. The mail ballots for Asian voters were flagged the most, at nearly three times the rate of white Georgians’ ballots. For Black voters, rejection rates were a little more than twice the rate of white voters, while Latinx voters saw their mail ballots rejected twice as much as their white peers.

And the newly created "Sad Fucking Trombone" Award goes to...
https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1323914087340781569/

Here's how many people voted for Kanye West

Curious how Kanye West's presidential run panned out? Have a look.

news.avclub.com

As you grapple with the reality of at least four more years of exhausting Kanye news cycles, feel free to interpret the rapper’s state-by-state results however you like. Want to have a chuckle at the hip-hop mogul nabbing only 7,800 votes out of the millions that were cast in Minnesota? Go for it. Want to nod approvingly at the 10,000 votes he scored in Tennessee, affirmed by a political outsider making such a dent? That’s fine, too.

These aren’t the final counts, but this is how things looked as of Wednesday afternoon:

Arkansas: 4,040

Colorado: 6,254

Idaho: 3,631

Iowa: 3,202

Kentucky: 6,259

Louisiana: 4,894

Minnesota: 7,789

Mississippi: 3,277

Oklahoma: 5,590

Tennessee: 10,216

Utah: 4,344

Vermont: 1,265

https://www.twitter.com/i/web/status/1323727338387902465/

GTFO!!!

Go back to fake church revivals to promote albums.

 

[hulugu]

Ever happened? I’m guessing not. But it might take the next term of four years to evict this one!

The 22nd Amendment was ratified in 1951, after it passed through Congress in 1947. Specially, it was designed to keep another president from serving four terms like FDR, who served from 1933 to 1945.

 

[Thomas Veil]

It sounds appealing, on the face of it, but, what is the strongest 3rd party right now? Not the Greens. Not the SWP or CPUSA. The strongest 3rd party is the Glibertarians. Which is nothing at all like a left-wing party. They are approximately equivalent to Koch fiends.

I'm thinking of a new coalition made up of people who left the GOP, people who are still in it but disgusted with Trump and McConnell, and independents.

...Notably, a person could be limited to only 7 years in office if they began their first term more than two years in, but a person could also theoretically serve 10 terms if they finish the president's first term, and then win two subsequent elections.

I think you meant ten years.

 

[Huntn]

Just watched a clip of Eric Trump having a meltdown in Philadelphia before unleashing his attack dog Guiliani, who sounded more like a dottering old fool.

At 17:12 US Central Time, things are looking much better, my mood has changed greatly from this morning:

 

[rdrr]

Ever happened? I’m guessing not. But it might take the next term of four years to evict this one!

I am a little lost at this part of the thread. If you are asking if a president ever has served non consecutive terms then yes it has happened with Cleveland. However if you are asking if Trump can come back in 2024, no he will be way too old and in jail.