The Trump Cesspool Thread- a place to drop misc Trump turds

“People have been saying”.

People have also been saying he snorts cocaine, does adderrall and shits his pants on the regular.

Who to believe? 🤷‍♂️
 
Not sure the best place to put this, but:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/06/politics/trump-immunity-court-of-appeals/index.html

No doubt Trump's "lawyers" will do their best to drag out the judicial proceedings and eventually have the case heard by the SCOTUS, where his appointees will do their best to overturn this ruling. But it's good that this panel has weighed in unanimously. I'm also looking forward to judge Engoron's ruling, which will drive Trump even crazier.
 
let the catchup insults and death threats fly. glad he has such crappy lawyers.
I don't think even highly competent lawyers could have made a convincing case as to why Trump should be immune from prosecution. The same holds true for at least some of the arguments being made in the Colorado ballot eligibility case, especially that the president isn't an officer of the United States.
 
Trump's problem is that he thinks he's already a dictator. I'm glad the courts are telling him he is not, and will not be.
Yeah but the SCOTUS is stacked with his people and have little doubt that they'll decide the 14th amendment does not apply to him and states will be forced to keep him on the ballot. Not that I think he'll win anyway but that court is heavily compromised and will pave the way out for any challenges that may come his way.
 
Yeah but the SCOTUS is stacked with his people and have little doubt that they'll decide the 14th amendment does not apply to him and states will be forced to keep him on the ballot. Not that I think he'll win anyway but that court is heavily compromised and will pave the way out for any challenges that may come his way.
I agree that they'll probably side with Trump on issue of the 14th, but I don't think they'll get 6 or 5 justices to say that a President is immune to prosecution. The founding fathers didn't want to have another King, and I don't think you can argue that their intent of the constitution framework was to support another dictator at the top.

However, I think the decision will be moot. They'll probably drag it out until after the Nov election.
 
Federal court ruled Trump doesn’t have immunity.

I ran that through the MAGA logic translator and it says “Trump found guilty of all charges”. Neat. I guess jumping to vastly overexaggerated conclusions doesn’t always end in their favor.
 
The Supreme Court should rule on whether Trump engaged in insurrection. How is that defined? That's the crux of the issue. The 14th amendment is self-executing, like not being of age. Who knows how the supreme court would rule, but that seems to be the hangup. Do you have to be criminally charged and found guilty to have been found to have engaged in insurrection? (Impeachment is not a criminal ruling and even more prone to politics than our shitty Supreme Court). And if so, how do you go about prosecuting a former president who claims they're immune and using every tool to avoid prosecution? That's another wrinkle - the supreme court and other courts aren't just deciding this particular case - we're dealing with how we handle this situation in the future if we elect a derelict, mentally incompetent dimwit who decides he's also immune from losing elections and decides "F*** what the voters said, I'm not leaving. Where's my Roy Cohn?"

The problem is, common sense is out the window. It was easy to charge and prosecute the average MAGA maggot and find them guilty of sedition and insurrection. Trump is arguing on two levels that he didn't engage in insurrection, and is immune from prosecution anyways. Its the same excuse he gives about everything. Will you run your business as president? "I don't think I will but I could if I wanted to."

What really irks me to end is Trump using what he's guilty of, to argue in his defense. I want to say the election was stolen, so I need to attempt to steal it to make my claims have merit. That's all this song and dance is about, and it also bugs me to see him take advantage of every legal avenue, loophole, appeal, filing, argument, excuse, etc. that is afforded to him under our flawed but robust justice system as he attacks it and tries to dismantle it just because he's a sore f******g loser.
 
Federal court ruled Trump doesn’t have immunity.

I ran that through the MAGA logic translator and it says “Trump found guilty of all charges”.

Which version are you using? Because I tried it on mine and it came out "Hillary Biden guilty On all Counts! Kenya! Person! Camera! Obama! TV!"
 
Which version are you using? Because I tried it on mine and it came out "Hillary Biden guilty On all Counts! Kenya! Person! Camera! Obama! TV!"

I used the version where you remove party affiliation and it jumps to the worst possible conclusion for whoever you enter. Same version used to determine that Joe Biden is the most corrupt President in US history due to the fact that he has a bank account and that Democrats who enjoy pizza are prolific pedophiles.
 
Trump keeps running around talking about (in literal all caps) "A PRESIDENT MUST HAVE COMPLETE AND TOTAL IMMUNITY!"

What kind of innocent, put-upon victim uses that as an excuse?

Someone should tell him it worked just fine for the 44 presidents who came before him, and that includes Nixon.
 
He’d just say an illegitimate president doesn’t have immunity. And if it could be proven scientifically that Biden won, the rule would shift to some obscure interpretation of the constitution such that immunity only applies if your initials are “DT” and you were inaugurated in a year that starts with 2 and ends with 7.
 
The Supreme Court should rule on whether Trump engaged in insurrection. How is that defined? That's the crux of the issue. The 14th amendment is self-executing, like not being of age. Who knows how the supreme court would rule, but that seems to be the hangup. Do you have to be criminally charged and found guilty to have been found to have engaged in insurrection? (Impeachment is not a criminal ruling and even more prone to politics than our shitty Supreme Court). And if so, how do you go about prosecuting a former president who claims they're immune and using every tool to avoid prosecution? That's another wrinkle - the supreme court and other courts aren't just deciding this particular case - we're dealing with how we handle this situation in the future if we elect a derelict, mentally incompetent dimwit who decides he's also immune from losing elections and decides "F*** what the voters said, I'm not leaving. Where's my Roy Cohn?"

The problem is, common sense is out the window. It was easy to charge and prosecute the average MAGA maggot and find them guilty of sedition and insurrection. Trump is arguing on two levels that he didn't engage in insurrection, and is immune from prosecution anyways. Its the same excuse he gives about everything. Will you run your business as president? "I don't think I will but I could if I wanted to."

What really irks me to end is Trump using what he's guilty of, to argue in his defense. I want to say the election was stolen, so I need to attempt to steal it to make my claims have merit. That's all this song and dance is about, and it also bugs me to see him take advantage of every legal avenue, loophole, appeal, filing, argument, excuse, etc. that is afforded to him under our flawed but robust justice system as he attacks it and tries to dismantle it just because he's a sore f******g loser.

It definitely seems like we’re barreling to some sort of constitutional crisis.

I think the founders assumed a President who committed a violation of law would be impeached and removed from office, thus barring him/her from ever holding office again.

I’m not sure why there would be any expectation that crimes committed while being president could not be later prosecuted. If an ex-President is immune, why did Ford pardon Nixon? In fact come to find out decades later Nixon had been indicted with 4 criminal charges by a grand jury.

Although Trump does have a conservative majority in the Supreme Court, I don’t believe they will disgrace themselves by providing favorable rulings to Trump specifically just to see him elected. Whatever you think of their ideologies I don’t think any justice is that dishonorable to sacrifice their reputation and legacy being a Trump sycophant. I would expect these justices well understand their rulings have effects long after Trump.

As someone who believes in the fair application of the law and importance of maintaining individuals rights, I don’t think you should be able to ban a candidate from an election based on the *accusation* of a crime (ie insurrection) without a trial and right of the accused having the ability to defend himself. I don’t want to see another term of Trump, but really don’t want to see this kangaroo court nonsense legitimized, starting a terrible precedent (that unfortunately may already be upon us).

Meanwhile Trump proves himself to be the luckiest man ever with this whole Fanni Willis scandal in GA. The GA case seems to be one of the most serious cases against him- and it seems because Willis is a corrupt DA who can’t help having an affair with her prosecutor, Trumps case will undoubtedly be delayed until after the election. This may be for the best in terms of avoiding a constitutional crisis, but a second Trump term will likely induce a crisis of its own.
 
Meanwhile Trump proves himself to be the luckiest man ever with this whole Fanni Willis scandal in GA. The GA case seems to be one of the most serious cases against him- and it seems because Willis is a corrupt DA who can’t help having an affair with her prosecutor,

There really is no scandal to be found there. The CFSG team is furiously flapping around like a cornered fish.
 
There really is no scandal to be found there.

This should come to a head fairly quickly. One of us will be right and one won't.

Things aren't going well for Alvin Bragg either. So that is something to watch.
 
There really is no scandal to be found there. The CFSG team is furiously flapping around like a cornered fish.
Worst case they hand it off to another DA who can then choose whether or not to proceed, but the prevailing theory is that is very unlikely to get thrown out no matter who the DA is. The crime is a crime and they have strong evidence with a grand jury who recommended 21 charges. It'll be hard for Trump to skimp out of this but he'll delay as long as possible as we know.
 
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