The Trump Cesspool Thread- a place to drop misc Trump turds

When you're going after an ex-president with an entire political party in their pocket, you have to make triply sure the case you build is that much more secure, otherwise any hanging nit will be the death of it.

...as we're seeing now.

Totally agree. It’s one thing to have to have a legal battle with all the resources of a state or federal government. It’s another thing entirely to have the resources as not only an ex-President, but by also a celebrity and presidential contender with a sycophantic cult following and also happen to be a billionaire.

On top of it, things are so hyper partisan that any inkling of the impropriety must be prevented otherwise the mob goes crazy. Just look at how a woman and her daughter exchanging a piece of candy at polling station turned into a conspiracy theory of election fraud.

I cannot fathom why GA allowed this Wilis-Wade clown show progress into what it has become. With a case as important as this- that literally could impact the election, the future of the country, and global geopolitics, how this allowed ti happen? How was your there no oversight. How was their relationship not questioned (certainly someone must have known they constantly were jetsetting around the world) and potential financial corruption scheme not addressed- we only know about this Wade’s divorce proceedings. Did anyone ever ask Willis or Wade if they had any COI that could be used ti derail this case.

It’s just unfathomable to me that rather pulling these two off the case immediately for the sake of preserving some semblance of a case it is as decided they should instead going on the defense.

The level of narcissism almost rivals Trump here- to jeopardize one the most important legal cases ever and to think anyone would buy their totally implausible defense.
 
The level of narcissism almost rivals Trump here- to jeopardize one the most important legal cases ever and to think anyone would buy their totally implausible defense.

Some posters on here thought she did great and that this is a witch hunt and there is nothing to see.
 
I cannot fathom why GA allowed this Wilis-Wade clown show progress into what it has become. With a case as important as this- that literally could impact the election, the future of the country, and global geopolitics, how this allowed ti happen? How was your there no oversight. How was their relationship not questioned (certainly someone must have known they constantly were jetsetting around the world) and potential financial corruption scheme not addressed- we only know about this Wade’s divorce proceedings. Did anyone ever ask Willis or Wade if they had any COI that could be used ti derail this case.

It’s just unfathomable to me that rather pulling these two off the case immediately for the sake of preserving some semblance of a case it is as decided they should instead going on the defense.

The level of narcissism almost rivals Trump here- to jeopardize one the most important legal cases ever and to think anyone would buy their totally implausible defense.

Yeah, it’s a damn shame this happened (and it is), but let’s not pretend if Willis was Jack Smith she’d be treated any different by the Trump sycophants. What evidence do you have of financial impropriety besides the fact they possibly f*****d? Because the best argument I heard was that they paid in cash, which is neither a crime nor that uncommon with high profile or well off black people.

Prove the financial fraud, prove they’re lying. The attorneys were not prepared, didn’t have any contradictory evidence, their star witness fumbles (kind of a pattern with Republican star witnesses), and the best you’ve got so far is that it’s suspicious they paid in cash.

Hey, you’re partially correct; if they’re lying on the stand or in other sworn or binding statements, no excuse and they may not only lose the case and their jobs, but their livelihood. It’s far more easy to believe - based on nothing but the evidence - they hooked up and there is no broader conspiracy.

I’m not going to defend that decision, but I’m also not going to trash it. You said it yourself - people probably knew. Did they stay silent out of fear? Coercion? Were they in on a conspiracy? Or maybe the rules aren’t clear or strictly forbidden, so nobody cared.


Maybe this company I never heard of until today was in on it. This is clearly a pro-Willis commercial meant to spread propaganda to back up her claims.



Lastly, even if Willis is removed (and based on the hearings, I see no reason to believe that she will), it doesn’t absolve Trump.

What’s amazing to me is how you’ve managed to connect all these dots to solve the Willis controversy, yet the best you’ve got for Trump is “eh, I think the threat to democracy is overblown.”

Some posters on here thought she did great and that this is a witch hunt and there is nothing to see.

Not quite a witch hunt, but a desperate Hail Mary by a guy in deep shit and his lawyers.

Do I wish it happened this way? No. I’m not entirely sure if the rules are clear on whether this type of relationship is allowed. If there is a rule or law, point to it. If they’re embezzling or this was a financial pursuit, prove it. If not, then prove the harm to Trump’s legal team. I’ve hear nothing to help these claims. The defense callled these people to the stand and their argument was basically “Come on, you pay cash? What are you hiding!”

That’s not a good argument.
 
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that did not take long.

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I picked this up off Mastodon, excellent appraisal :

Trump has such contempt for the rule of law. It oozes out of his mouth when he speaks and leaps off the page when his attorneys file arguments on his behalf in court.
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If you don’t have respect for the fundamentals, you don’t have respect for the institutions or the integrity of the nation as a whole. That’s the essence of who Trump is. Self-serving. Someone who wants the power and protections that come with being a dictator, a special status that is not available to anyone in a democracy. It’s bewildering to those of us who see Trump as an emperor with no clothes that others believe he’s fully dressed and wearing their colors. What they fail to see is the inevitable final act to following their leader, that Trump always turns on those who support him when their interests diverge, whether it’s Michael Cohen, his long-time attorney, Jeff Sessions, his first supporter in the Senate and Attorney General, or Mike Pence, his adoringly loyal vice president. We need to remember our outrage when it’s so exhausting and easier to become numb to Trump.
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Regarding Hunter Biden and the FBI Informant that the Republikans were fawning over, now arrested:
Weiss says Smirnov told agents during an interview following his arrest that "officials associated with Russian intelligence" were involved in his fabricated story about Hunter Biden. What other information could Smirnov bring to light?

Any embarrassment or apologies from the Asas Hats? HELL NO! 🤬
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There was some good news today. The Supreme Court declined to take on an appeal by Trump attorneys including Sidney Powell of “release the Kraken” fame and retired Georgia lawyer Lin Wood. In 2021, a federal judge in Michigan sanctioned them for bringing a lawsuit claiming election fraud cost Trump the election in that state. The case was promptly dismissed for a lack of evidence and the Judge permitted the city of Detroit and other state defendants to recover over $150,000 in damages from the Trump lawyers.

Accountability! In her opinion, District Judge Linda Parker called Powell and Wood’s lawsuit a “historic and profound abuse” of the courts. She said the lawsuit was “frivolous.” The Supreme Court did not disagree.

Cases like this are the counterbalance to Trump’s authoritarian rhetoric. They are a slow but steady restoration of the rule of law. Sidney Powell now stands convicted of 6 misdemeanor charges related to election interference in Georgia. Lin Wood stepped down from practicing law. They will have to compensate Michigan for their frivolous litigation. It is not everything that we need, but it is a start. Rudy Giuliani has been held civilly liable for his attacks on poll workers and can no longer practice law. Trump lawyer John Eastman faces bar disciplinary action. In an era where a former president acts like he’s above the law, it’s an important start. And only a start, because there is more coming.
 
I cannot fathom why GA allowed this Wilis-Wade clown show progress into what it has become.

That's simple. A goodly portion of the Georgia legislation wants to put an end to the indictment before it gets to trial. Allowing the Willis-Wade clown show to play out as it has is but the latest attempt.
 
That's simple. A goodly portion of the Georgia legislation wants to put an end to the indictment before it gets to trial. Allowing the Willis-Wade clown show to play out as it has is but the latest attempt.

I'd like to point out that after the first day of testimony, the pundits were like "Yeah, she may be gone." Then after she testified, and the defense's star witness testified, they reversed. It's still iffy, but the law experts on the left seemed to feel pretty assured afterwards. I think that's more to do with the lack of any substance in the case rather than what anyone who testified said.

I've heard nothing to back up any claims of embezzlement or pursuing this case solely out of financial interest. The best argument is "You pay for everything in cash? You didn't save your hotel receipt? You paid cash? You paid him back? Was there a contract? And you really pay for everything in cash? And he paid you back? And he paid for everything in cash too?"

Even the judge frequently had to remind them to get to the point and stop fishing.

I would, in fact, be shocked if she were guilty of some sort of conspiracy. It's far easier to believe she had an affair with someone she hired, and that's it. If thats not the case, let's find the facts and then she should either stay or be removed. I fail to see what her banging a lawyer on the team has to do with Trump's guilt or innocence, unless and until it can be proven.
 
Lastly, even if Willis is removed (and based on the hearings, I see no reason to believe that she will), it doesn’t absolve Trump.

The right has largely moved on from trying to defend Trump’s actions to putting out the perception that everybody is corrupt or a criminal and therefor Trump should be given a blanket pass for everything. They’re employing their usual tactic of putting out 1,000 accusations hoping 1 will stick and if 1 does stick then they’ll say that validates all 1,000. Only at the tippy top tier of the justice system could this kind of chaos be allowed to continue.

On Willis staying on the case, for the right that will just be further proof of how corrupt and stacked against Trump the system is. They don't care about facts or lack thereof that would keep her on the case. All they care about is accusations and their suspicions. Ironically, the definition of a witch hunt.
 
I'd like to point out that after the first day of testimony, the pundits were like "Yeah, she may be gone." Then after she testified, and the defense's star witness testified, they reversed. It's still iffy, but the law experts on the left seemed to feel pretty assured afterwards. I think that's more to do with the lack of any substance in the case rather than what anyone who testified said.

The Trump contingent's entire playbook is based around kicking up enough dust to obscure whatever inconvenience is being inconvenient to them at that moment. The usual process is thus:

1. "This case is a conspiracy against Trump. It's totally bonus and unfair. Something something something Deep State."
2. "We've found proof that this case is a conspiracy against Trump."
3. "We've presented the evidence of this conspiracy to the courts."
4. *hoots and hollers, screams of doom and gloom, and accusations galore go here*
5. "The judge has dismissed our case! Trump was right all along. Our country is corrupt, and the only person who can save us is him!"

Right now, with Fanni Willis, we're at stage 4.
 
The Trump contingent's entire playbook is based around kicking up enough dust to obscure whatever inconvenience is being inconvenient to them at that moment. The usual process is thus:

1. "This case is a conspiracy against Trump. It's totally bonus and unfair. Something something something Deep State."
2. "We've found proof that this case is a conspiracy against Trump."
3. "We've presented the evidence of this conspiracy to the courts."
4. *hoots and hollers, screams of doom and gloom, and accusations galore go here*
5. "The judge has dismissed our case! Trump was right all along. Our country is corrupt, and the only person who can save us is him!"

Right now, with Fanni Willis, we're at stage 4.

You truly nailed that process. That's exactly what it is. Which is why they should put up or shut up. The judge overseeing this is a Federalist Society member, and Trump hasn't attacked him yet that I know of. I expect that will change if/when Willis is allowed to prosecute the case.

Thus far, I've been pretty impressed with all the judges in Trump-related cases, with the exception of Cannon, who has been reprimanded once for her decision making already. Jack Smith is pretty smart and we're getting to the point in that case where the meandering will end, and she will be forced to get another rebuke from the appeals court. I'm still willing to give her the benefit of a doubt, but she appears to be intentionally slow-walking this case.

The unbelievable luck of this grifter that she got randomly assigned to this case. How the **** did this loser bankrupt a casino in Atlantic City of all places, when he's the luckiest POS in the world?
 
I didn't see much in the news and stumbled across this little nugget. Apparently in January 8th 2024 the IG office released a report about the prescription pills that were issued by old Admiral Ron Jackson (now Rep Ron Jackson) during 2019. In the report he issued out 10s of thousand of dollars worth of Ativan, Ambien, Diazepam, Fentanyl, Ketamine, Lorazepam, Morphine, and Tramadol! Now I am sure the current administration has some eye opening prescriptions as well. However, with Trumps long rumored abuse of prescription pills, it has to make you wonder how much of this was going into his own system.

And Morphine really? Were there a lot of end of life situations at the Whitehouse in 2019?

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I am thinking trump has multiple personalities. I mean he thinks he is just like about 20 different people.

He also claimed to be a newly christened legal expert in his interview with Laura Ingraham. He sort of said it in jest, but not really, because he then parlayed that into knowing why all the cases against him are fascist attacks, which make him as big a victim as Navalny. Then pulled out something he wrote down from the constitution which he read, but clearly doesn’t understand.

He’s a man of many hats. Asshats.
 
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