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I can understand some of the rulings of the court - one could view it as also protecting current presidents from the next one.
However, where they abdicated their duty is not speaking to the specifics of the case in front of them, or even providing any clear mediation when a president is egregiously violating the law. Republicans are saying "these doomsday scenarios won't happen." They give no recourse if it does. It's an abdication of duty, to release this incomplete mess on the last day of the court's business for awhile.
Trump is not off the hook, the road is just more narrow. But all of this stuff is going to find its way back up the court again, and they've been ruling almost unanimously for the biggest criminal grifter ever to hold public office.
However, where they abdicated their duty is not speaking to the specifics of the case in front of them, or even providing any clear mediation when a president is egregiously violating the law. Republicans are saying "these doomsday scenarios won't happen." They give no recourse if it does. It's an abdication of duty, to release this incomplete mess on the last day of the court's business for awhile.
Trump is not off the hook, the road is just more narrow. But all of this stuff is going to find its way back up the court again, and they've been ruling almost unanimously for the biggest criminal grifter ever to hold public office.
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From Heather Cox Richardson newsletter:
But this extraordinary power grab does not mean President Joe Biden can do as he wishes
As legal commentator Asha Rangappa pointed out, the court gave itself the power to determine which actions can be prosecuted and which cannot by making itself the final arbiter of what is āofficialā and what is not. Thus any action a president takes is subject to review by the Supreme Court, and it is reasonable to assume that this particular court would not give a Democrat the same leeway it would give Trump.
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of course, it would not. showing How being Christian does not stop you from doing horrible things.
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In his ruling on April 13th, 2026, Justice Alito wrote,
The part of the President's Oath of Office that says "ā¦ preserve, protect and defend the Constitution ā¦" refers to the original parchment document that the Founders wrote in 1787, not the words it contains or the concepts it embodies.
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Is this real? Because if so, Alito should be immediately arrested and tried for undermining the American Democracy.
Agreed. It makes sense that the President is immune from prosecution for official acts such as ordering the killing of Bin Laden. But taking and not returning classified documents after leaving office, or conspiring to overturn an election? You could say the SCOTUS sent this back to lower courts to decide what's an official act and what isn't, but ultimately any decisions a former President doesn't agree with will go back to the SCOTUS, which just means further delay no matter how they eventually rule.
Remember when "used car salesman" was the exemplar of an untrustworthy person? (No offense to anyone here who falls into that category ā I've bought several used cars from good salespeople over the years.) I'd wager "Supreme Court Justices" and "Congresspeople" fall even lower in the rankings these days.
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Given that it is dated April 13, 2026, I kind of doubt itās real.
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Iād feel a lot better if the content proved it was a hoax and not the date.
For instance, āPresident Trump orders AG to arrest Liz Cheney for treasonā is something Iād believe until I saw an incorrect date.
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This x1000! I tried to watch jake Tapper on CNN but he spent the first 10 minutes just eviscerating Biden's performance without a hint of irony that they let Trump lie like a rug unchecked. It was like something we expect from Fox News.
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The Blue Wall is starting to crack.
As of now, 2 Dem Congressmen and 1 Dem Senator are saying he should step down.
Pelosi, after vehemently defending him Friday, now says discussions about his mental health are appropriate.
Will he refuse to submit? Time will tell, but I canāt imagine he can withstand it too much longer.
As of now, 2 Dem Congressmen and 1 Dem Senator are saying he should step down.
Pelosi, after vehemently defending him Friday, now says discussions about his mental health are appropriate.
Will he refuse to submit? Time will tell, but I canāt imagine he can withstand it too much longer.
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Kind of ironic, really. The Democrats hold their people to a high-ish standard and are not afraid to criticize those in power. The Republicans elevate the most worthless piece of shit they can find, avidly licking his boots. Mitch? I mean, come on. Lamentable that way to effectively run the country into the ground is to be the biggest sack of the stinkiest turds they possibly can.
(yes, "ironic" is not quite the right word, there)
(yes, "ironic" is not quite the right word, there)
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Pretty astonishing, isn't it? Well, at least in a normal world it would be.
I just don't understand why leadership in the republican party are not able to man/woman-up and say no to criminal charlatans bent on destroying democracy and the country. Apparently trump has them all by the 'nads.
Liz Cheney stood up during the January 6th Committee hearings. Were the rest of the repubs born without spines?
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Looks like he is going to do an interview with Stephanopoulos this Friday, but it won't be airing live. That won't allay any fears if it is not done live.
And it also looks like the big Dem money is going to be moving to House and Senate races. This will certainly benefit the Dems trying to keep/regain control of Congress.
And it also looks like the big Dem money is going to be moving to House and Senate races. This will certainly benefit the Dems trying to keep/regain control of Congress.
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I would like to see that interview without any handlers around. Maybe a walk around the WH grounds for 45 minutes. Just Joe, George, and a camera operator.
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probably because the person camera TV is getting in their way
I must say the ājacked up Joeā talking annoys the hell of me. As someone who specialized in clinical psychopharmacology, I maybe know a little bit about the disease and the effects of pharmaceuticals.
Dementia IS NOT treated with stimulants. Stimulants improve focus, alertness, and energy. It may have some effect on improving working memory (short term, needed to complete tasks). Stimulants do not make you remember things youāve forgotten, it does not repair the physical damage of neurons that is the cause of dementia symptoms.
It also should be emphasized these drugs can also negatively impact other aspects of cognitive performance and induce unwanted side effects. Elderly folks are especially sensitive to side effects, especially psychological side effects. For example, stimulants can increase restlessness and irritability (always symptoms of dementia). They are notorious for causing insomnia, poor sleep throws fuel on the fire or dementia. These drugs also cause cardiac stress and most elderly people already have cardiovascular problems.
Stimulants have been around for a long time and have been studied for dementia. The conclusion is they are not effective- again, why would they be- they do nothing to resolve the underlying damage causing the disease. Methylphenidate may improve apathy in dementia patients, but is not a common practice to use it given the other risks.
The sad reality is that there is really no meaningful treatment available because the Alzheimerās drugs really donāt work that well and all they do is slow the progression- basically at best on the order of several months. They merely prolong the inevitable.
My suspicion is that before large events, Bidenās team do as much as possible to keep him unstressed and with plenty of rest. I imagine debate prep was not the only reason Biden spent a week at Camp David. Itās also a fact Biden has had more āvacation daysā than anyone, at least in modern times. I think itās evident he performs much better using a teleprompter than having to speak off the cuff with no notes.
What also drives me crazy is when Joe preforms very poorly, then the next day he does fine, and then his supporters exclaim how amazing he was. The nature of dementia is that ebbs and flows day to day and within days, but the disease is always progressive. We see the inconsistent performance and itās clear looking back even 5 years, even 2, he is not the same Joe Biden. I donāt see how he could make it another 4 years in office.
Despite the fact I have been vocal about my concerns for some time, I take no pleasure in his illness. I find it disgusting how many on the right talk about this. Dementia is probably the most sinister diseases. It robs the patient of themselves, destroying their mind bit by bit, effectively killing off the person inside while allowing their body to live. For anyone who has ever known someone with dementia, itās devastating to watch. Ultimately all we have in life is our mind, if we lose it to dementia, do we even still exist?
I also find the talk about his family abhorrent. Unfounded conspiracies like Jill must be a power hungry sociopath making her husband stay in office so she can secretly rule. Or Hunter wonāt let his father quit because of he did he heād no longer be able to influence peddle for money.
Usually the last person to recognize the symptoms is the person with dimentia. Iām sure Joe has no interest in quitting. Heās clearly not yet so far gone heās totally lost, but this is one of those awful diseases that tells people they donāt have a problem. Thereās probably also a faction of people who donāt want Joe to quit because then theyāll lose their job and status. Thereās also a massive Dem political machine weighing down on Joe to not let Trump win, especially by default. More than likely Jill is supporting her husbandās wishes as a supportive wife- she seems to genuinely care for him. Not like a Trump-Melania or Bill-Hillary Clinton. I think itās beyond cruel to make such accusations about his family.
Iām not very impressed with the Biden presidency as you know, but I am saddened seeing anyone struggling with dementia symptoms and I find the circumstances Joe is stuck with to be totally unfair for him.
For all the complaints of Trumpās conspiracy theories (totally valid btw- like that he actually won 2020, Obamaās birth certificate, HRC-Ukraine collusion, etc), from what I can gather there isnāt a conspiracy theory RFK wonāt buy into. It seems like in his mind everything has a conspiracy behind it. He is on a whole different level than Trump. If you ask me, any leader pushing conspiracies is likely to cause damage to society.
I encourage anyone not aware to read up on this he extent of RFKās wacky views.
You are aware talking points can be entirely and in part factual, even if they come from somewhere other than your side.
My judgements are based on my relevant professional background- not the opinion of an alleged jiournslst operating as partial political hack with no medical or psych qualifications. I donāt consume much right wing media and when I do itās not the trash content like Biden falling down on loop. I donāt find outrage porn (which is seemingly most of our media landscape!) as informative.
Iām not sure how many times I have to say Trump is mentally unfit for president- though for very different reasons. Plus, his inaction on Jan 6 to stop the chaos should be considered disqualifying and criminal. If that makes me MAGA, then you might be delusional.
How would you feel if I pointed out that you present no different than the actual MAGA people you despise. Congrats! You evidently have no interest in the value of truth- you seem entirely content absorbing your partyās talking points without question, even at the expense of disregarding reality. Policy far less importance than winning against the opposition.
The way some of our countryās media organizations have handled Bidenās cognitive status (seems apparent they were spreading disinformation). This would be no different than Fox promoting voter machine fraud while behind closed doors knowing what theyāre saying is BS. This is actually so much worse on an ethical level.
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