The Democrat agenda 2022 and going forward

[Herdfan]

Let me start by saying I really don't care that Joe pardoned Hunter. I am not mad about it nor really surprised. I guess what does surprise me is the level of backlash from the more liberal media. They must have believed him.

But one thing to note, now that Hunter has been pardoned, he no longer has 5A issues and can be called to testify before Congress.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Let me start by saying I really don't care that Joe pardoned Hunter. I am not mad about it nor really surprised. I guess what does surprise me is the level of backlash from the more liberal media. They must have believed him.

But one thing to note, now that Hunter has been pardoned, he no longer has 5A issues and can be called to testify before Congress.

What the actual f*ck is Hunter going to offer to congress? Are they still trying to find crap that doesn’t exist? Or is it just so he can be grilled by rednecks like Comer and Jordan for your amusement?

I’m really supposed to care about what supporters of a felon president think about a civilian and his petty crimes?

Ugh.

Also, that’s sort of a tacit admission the low-IQ congress republicans aren’t done f*****g with Hunter, which proves my earlier point - this was as much a pre-emptive pardon as it was a pardon. Because these vindictive dumbasses aren’t done with their dog and pony congressional hearings.

You’d think they’d have better things to do. Retail spending is up. This was one of the busiest holiday travel seasons ever. Black Friday and Cyber Monday sales will be up. Record Thanksgiving movie ticket sales. And they’re going to improve the economy - that’s a tall task and you’d think there would be more to do than drag Hunter Biden into congress. I’m curious how many of these frothing morons have junkie and criminal kids of their own. Besides Trump, I mean - we already know about those sh*theads.

 

[Herdfan]

I’m really supposed to care about what supporters of a felon president think about a civilian and his petty crimes?

Probably not. It's just that the left leaning media seems way madder about this than the right leaning media.

Also, that’s sort of a tacit admission the low-IQ congress republicans aren’t done f*****g with Hunter,

Calling him to testify is not f*****g with him. He simply must answer their questions this time.

 

[Eric]

Probably not. It's just that the left leaning media seems way madder about this than the right leaning media.

Haven't been watching any of it anyway but glad you are staying up to date.

Calling him to testify is not f*****g with him. He simply must answer their questions this time.

Also see... U.S. House Jan. 6 Committee subpoenas 5 GOP members who declined to testify. I'll do a search to see where you've had the same expectations for these individuals, go ahead and hold your breath, I'm sure it won't take long.

 

[rdrr]

I have no problem with the pardon after saying he wouldn't. He is only protecting his son from the pending weaponizing of the DoJ and FBI by Trump. Also I chuckled at the Right's response, because they know there is nothing they can do about this pardon, which I am sure they are itching to say is illegal and want to investigate.

HOWEVER, thanks to the Supreme Court ruling of Presidential Immunity while doing Presidential Acts, nothing can be done. Hoping for more of these types of acts.

 

[Eric]

I have no problem with the pardon after saying he wouldn't. He is only protecting his son from the pending weaponizing of the DoJ and FBI by Trump. Also I chuckled at the Right's response, because they know there is nothing they can do about this pardon, which I am sure they are itching to say is illegal and want to investigate.

HOWEVER, thanks to the Supreme Court ruling of Presidential Immunity while doing Presidential Acts, nothing can be done. Hoping for more of these types of acts.

As far as I’m concerned Biden should do whatever TF he wants, legal or not, and then stick a fat middle finger to both MAGA and ever last American who voted for that piece of shit Trump. Zero apologies.

We all know he’s better than that, but he should.

 

[GermanSuplex]

Calling him to testify is not f*****g with him. He simply must answer their questions this time.

Testify about what? Have these rednecks not embarrassed themselves enough with their sh*t kicking committee rodeos? They had NOTHING, Comer literally embarrassed himself live on air during interviews about this over and over again.

What is Hunter Biden going to help your folks like Comer, Jordan, MTG, etc accomplish? After all their digging, they found a gun charge and tax evasion. For the love of god, wake up dude.

Trump pardoned folks like Bannon and Roger Stone, not a peep. But this dude who only wanted to live a private life away from government and made some bad choices is somehow critical to congress?

 

[KingOfPain]

Calling him to testify is not f*****g with him. He simply must answer their questions this time.

How about Jim Jordan is testifying first, or do you keep forgetting these facts selectively?

 

[Eric]

How about Jim Jordan is testifying first, or do you keep forgetting these facts selectively?

We can call him on these all day and it won't matter. He ONLY plays one side and that's that.

 

[Renzatic]

Let me start by saying I really don't care that Joe pardoned Hunter. I am not mad about it nor really surprised. I guess what does surprise me is the level of backlash from the more liberal media. They must have believed him.

But one thing to note, now that Hunter has been pardoned, he no longer has 5A issues and can be called to testify before Congress.

Yeah, and what will happen from that? He'll be hauled into court to testify over cases that have been tried and tried again by the Republicans since Obama was president.

 

[Eric]

Yeah, and what will happen from that? He'll be hauled into court to testify over cases that have been tried and tried again by the Republicans since Obama was president.

I think the American people couldn't be less interested in a bunch more hearings after the last four years, they shown it hasn't mattered a bit.

 

[Alli]

But one thing to note, now that Hunter has been pardoned, he no longer has 5A issues and can be called to testify before Congress.

What will need testify to?

Calling him to testify is not f*****g with him. He simply must answer their questions this time.

He answered the questions the last time. He's got bigger balls than Gym Jordan, who still hasn't responded too his duly authorized Congressional subpoena.

 

[Herdfan]

What will need testify to?

All the things he pled the 5th to last time.

He answered the questions the last time. He's got bigger balls than Gym Jordan, who still hasn't responded too his duly authorized Congressional subpoena.

We have no idea what he did or did not answer as it was behind closed doors.

To be honest, I am not sure what most of you really care about, whether or not Joe did these things or that you believed him. It has been interesting reading quotes from elected officials, The GOP ones tend to be more pissed about the pardon, the Dem ones seem to be more pissed that Joe said he wouldn't do it. And then did it.

 

[Eric]

All the things he pled the 5th to last time.



We have no idea what he did or did not answer as it was behind closed doors.

To be honest, I am not sure what most of you really care about, whether or not Joe did these things or that you believed him. It has been interesting reading quotes from elected officials, The GOP ones tend to be more pissed about the pardon, the Dem ones seem to be more pissed that Joe said he wouldn't do it. And then did it.

It's fair criticism in the sense that Democrats expect a higher standard, both from themselves and their Republican counterparts. The problem is they lack the balls to do what's necessary and it costs them, like them or not Republicans will throw their own mothers under a bus to get what they want while lying and clawing the entire time. It sells.

Going forward we need a crop of candidates willing to fight and stick it to Republicans, not caring what anyone thinks either way. That's one thing that Trump has always had going for him.

 

[Chew Toy McCoy]

All the things he pled the 5th to last time.



We have no idea what he did or did not answer as it was behind closed doors.

To be honest, I am not sure what most of you really care about, whether or not Joe did these things or that you believed him. It has been interesting reading quotes from elected officials, The GOP ones tend to be more pissed about the pardon, the Dem ones seem to be more pissed that Joe said he wouldn't do it. And then did it.

Nobody outside political circles really cares about this but the news has to talk about something and they are mostly just talking to themselves because a huge chunk of people are no longer following the mainstream news either.

One of the founders, forgot which, was dead set against presidential pardons for this exact reason and countless worse examples before it.

 

[GermanSuplex]

To be honest, I am not sure what most of you really care about, whether or not Joe did these things or that you believed him. It has been interesting reading quotes from elected officials, The GOP ones tend to be more pissed about the pardon, the Dem ones seem to be more pissed that Joe said he wouldn't do it. And then did it.

You’re being grossly disingenuous. We explain things ad-nauseum, to a stunning degree.

How about we finish discussing Joe, Hunter and this pardon when you get around to these:

-Trump lying about his tax returns
-Trump lying about his affairs and business dealings.
-Trump constantly jerking off the worst leaders in the world.
-Trump inviting Nick Fuentes and Kanye West to a private dinner.
-Trump pardoning Bannon.
-Trump pardoning Roger Stone.
-Trump pardoning Kushner’s father.
-Trump’s batshit insane social media posts, which measure in the tens of thousands.
-Trump hiring his unqualified family members into his first administration.
-Trump nominating more family members into this upcoming administration, including a convicted felon.
-Why you think it was ok for Trump to incite January 6, forming a criminal organization to help overturn the vote.
-Trump being a felon.
-Trump hiding and refusing to return classified docs.
-Trump being found responsible for sexual assault and slandering the victim.
-Nominating Matt freaking Gaetz for anything, let alone AG.
-Nominating RFK Jr. for anything but conspiracy czar.

You will not address these, or do it in passing while never expounding on your views. You’ll just pop back in here to say “Wow, unemployment ticked up .1 percent under Biden and he pardoned his kid!”

But if you want a good reason why Biden pardoned Hunter, listen to Kash Patel interviews. Do you think Trump and his cult nominees are above revenge prosecutions? We’ve already seen Trump try this in his first term, and he succeeded in getting Barr to appease him a little.

All that said, I realize I’m the fool for engaging when you do not. You could at least give us the courtesy by just saying you’re busy or something, whether true or not.

 

[Eric]

You’re being grossly disingenuous. We explain things ad-nauseum, to a stunning degree.

How about we finish discussing Joe, Hunter and this pardon when you get around to these:

-Trump lying about his tax returns
-Trump lying about his affairs and business dealings.
-Trump constantly jerking off the worst leaders in the world.
-Trump inviting Nick Fuentes and Kanye West to a private dinner.
-Trump pardoning Bannon.
-Trump pardoning Roger Stone.
-Trump pardoning Kushner’s father.
-Trump’s batshit insane social media posts, which measure in the tens of thousands.
-Trump hiring his unqualified family members into his first administration.
-Trump nominating more family members into this upcoming administration, including a convicted a felon.
-Why you think it was ok for Trump to incite January 6, forming a criminal organization to help overturn the vote.
-Trump being a felon.
-Trump hiding and refusing to return classified docs.
-Trump being found responsible for sexual assault and slandering the victim.
-Nominating Matt freaking Gaetz for anything, let alone AG.
-Nominating RFK Jr. for anything but conspiracy czar.

You will not address these, or do it in passing while never expounding on your views. You’ll just pop back in here to say “Wow, unemployment ticked up .1 percent under Biden and he pardoned his kid!”

But if you want a good reason why Biden pardoned Hunter, listen to Kash Patel interviews. Do you think Trump and his cult nominees are above revenge prosecutions? We’ve already seen Trump try this in his first term, and he succeeded in getting Barr to appease him a little.

All that said, I realize I’m the fool for engaging when you do not. You could at least give us the courtesy by just saying you’re busy or something, whether true or not.

You can fully expect all of these to be ignored because he simply has no excuse or explanation. These standards are ONLY applicable to Democrats.

 

[Herdfan]

It's fair criticism in the sense that Democrats expect a higher standard, both from themselves and their Republican counterparts. The problem is they lack the balls to do what's necessary

They had the balls when they removed the Filibuster for Judicial Appointments. I don't think there is any way the GOP removed it for SCOTUS had the Dems not done it first.

So some balls.

You’re being grossly disingenuous. We explain things ad-nauseum, to a stunning degree.

How about we finish discussing Joe, Hunter and this pardon when you get around to these:

-Trump lying about his tax returns
-Trump lying about his affairs and business dealings.
-Trump constantly jerking off the worst leaders in the world.
-Trump inviting Nick Fuentes and Kanye West to a private dinner.
-Trump pardoning Bannon.
-Trump pardoning Roger Stone.
-Trump pardoning Kushner’s father.
-Trump’s batshit insane social media posts, which measure in the tens of thousands.
-Trump hiring his unqualified family members into his first administration.
-Trump nominating more family members into this upcoming administration, including a convicted felon.
-Why you think it was ok for Trump to incite January 6, forming a criminal organization to help overturn the vote.
-Trump being a felon.
-Trump hiding and refusing to return classified docs.
-Trump being found responsible for sexual assault and slandering the victim.
-Nominating Matt freaking Gaetz for anything, let alone AG.
-Nominating RFK Jr. for anything but conspiracy czar.

You will not address these, or do it in passing while never expounding on your views. You’ll just pop back in here to say “Wow, unemployment ticked up .1 percent under Biden and he pardoned his kid!”

But if you want a good reason why Biden pardoned Hunter, listen to Kash Patel interviews. Do you think Trump and his cult nominees are above revenge prosecutions? We’ve already seen Trump try this in his first term, and he succeeded in getting Barr to appease him a little.

All that said, I realize I’m the fool for engaging when you do not. You could at least give us the courtesy by just saying you’re busy or something, whether true or not.

Part of the problem with me not responding is you hit me with what? 17 or 18 things all at once. Many I don't recall the details of.

But here are some of them. As for his tax returns, I don't think it will be as revealing as many of you do because I know how the very wealthy hide income and its sources. So seeing will just be a number and you still won't know much more about his finances.

After Clinton, we were told sex didn't matter.

As for Bannon, Stone and Kushner's pardons, I can say they were for specific acts and not a blanket 10 year for anything you have done. Do you realize that from the time Joe signed that pardon until midnight,, Hunter could have robbed multiple banks and would not have been able to be touched,

Trump hired people he could trust. And yes, that meant family members. You say "hired". They weren't paid.

Kushner is no longer a convicted felon. Same as Hunter.

I think my views on the classified docs thing are well known. You might have to go back and look them up.

If the fact of the case of E. Jean Carroll were against a Dem, you would probably have the same views as I do. She couldn't remember the date, didn't tell anyone, got the store wrong, etc.

As for the Hunter pardon. I don't really care as I never believed him when he said he wasn't going to do it. Didn't believe him the first time he said all the way through the many other times he said it. It's on you if you did.

As for him no longer being able to plead the 5th, you don't have to respond, it won't matter. I predict at some point it will have its own thread.

 

[Renzatic]

Kushner is no longer a convicted felon. Same as Hunter.

No, they're both still convicted felons. A pardon isn't an expungement.

 

[rdrr]

They had the balls when they removed the Filibuster for Judicial Appointments. I don't think there is any way the GOP removed it for SCOTUS had the Dems not done it first.

So some balls.


Part of the problem with me not responding is you hit me with what? 17 or 18 things all at once. Many I don't recall the details of.

But here are some of them. As for his tax returns, I don't think it will be as revealing as many of you do because I know how the very wealthy hide income and its sources. So seeing will just be a number and you still won't know much more about his finances.

After Clinton, we were told sex didn't matter.

As for Bannon, Stone and Kushner's pardons, I can say they were for specific acts and not a blanket 10 year for anything you have done. Do you realize that from the time Joe signed that pardon until midnight,, Hunter could have robbed multiple banks and would not have been able to be touched,

Trump hired people he could trust. And yes, that meant family members. You say "hired". They weren't paid.

Kushner is no longer a convicted felon. Same as Hunter.

I think my views on the classified docs thing are well known. You might have to go back and look them up.

If the fact of the case of E. Jean Carroll were against a Dem, you would probably have the same views as I do. She couldn't remember the date, didn't tell anyone, got the store wrong, etc.

As for the Hunter pardon. I don't really care as I never believed him when he said he wasn't going to do it. Didn't believe him the first time he said all the way through the many other times he said it. It's on you if you did.

As for him no longer being able to plead the 5th, you don't have to respond, it won't matter. I predict at some point it will have its own thread.

A sexual affair doesn't seem to matter, but rape does. Trump is an adjudicated Rapist.

Trump is also a convicted felon.

Trump's tax returns are important because he has been found guilty of fraud on his business dealings.

The family members were paid, but not directly. Trump Hotel in DC was mandatory for a meeting with him during his last term. Charging the SS full freight at his resorts was also a back door payment. And the family especially Kushner got richer off of the position, something they are accusing Biden of, except in the case of Kushner's, 666 Fifth Avenue, Qatar, it is accusation is real.