The Democrat agenda 2022 and going forward

Democrats don't want to "be blamed for a shutdown" so they're caving to Republicans.

Yes, Democrats have so much to lose right now. :rolleyes:
 
Democrats don't want to "be blamed for a shutdown" so they're caving to Republicans.

Yes, Democrats have so much to lose right now. :rolleyes:

They are being institutional cowards. Again. As always. This would be Schumer in 1940's Germany "I voted to fund the gas chambers because a possible return to the firing squads would be unseemly."
 
It appears that Pete Buttigieg has a plan. In the past I've listened to at least a dozen of his interviews and was always blown away by his intelligence and on-the-spot problem solving thoughtfulness.
 
Maybe they know that the dream is dead and might as well go along to get along. 🤷‍♂️
 
It appears that Pete Buttigieg has a plan. In the past I've listened to at least a dozen of his interviews and was always blown away by his intelligence and on-the-spot problem solving thoughtfulness.
He's far too intelligent and practical for Americans to consider, maybe raping some people and bankrupting a bunch of casinos it would boost his appeal a bit.
 
He's far too intelligent and practical for Americans to consider, maybe raping some people and bankrupting a bunch of casinos it would boost his appeal a bit.
Its already been done, he has to think outside of the box. Maybe some kidnappings or illegal waterboarding, and if he knocks over a kids lemon-aid stand and throws in a Ponzi scheme I think we may have a winner.
 
Are you sure, though? Perhaps, being in the minority (minus one more) all around, they may simply be stepping out of the way so the country can see how very awful the Rs actually are.

The country is going to see how awful Republicans are regardless. All this did was show that Democrats are unwilling to use the only tool they currently have available in the shed. You know, at least pretend there's actually unified resistance.

I swear a "Any 4 Democrats in the house can veto Congress and the President" bill could pass and they'd never actually use it because the optics doesn't seem fair.
 
There is a widespread consensus that we need a massive backlash against the RRW (which even includes a smattering of Rs), and we are all looking around to see who is going to get it rolling.
 
There is a widespread consensus that we need a massive backlash against the RRW (which even includes a smattering of Rs), and we are all looking around to see who is going to get it rolling.

This is going around. Seriously, someone needs to take a stand.

 
Here's what Schumer should have done. Said he'll get Republicans the votes they need if they stop Musk and have no cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security. A complete layup and a win regardless of what Republicans decide. Instead he asked for nothing. Pathetic. So pathetic that Trump even publicly complimented him for his decision.
 
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JFC that’s bang on. Just came in here to b*tch and moan about Schumer and Jeffries.

“Is it time for new leadership in the senate?”
Jeffries: “Next question.”

That’s not the Leader Jeffries I know, and for that weak-ass answer to come out of his mouth when people at home have the same question is as insulting and useless as those goofy-ass “town halls” republicans are running away from. That answer at this time? Weak and disappointing.

I don’t entirely fault Schumer for going this route, and he explained it a little, but not enough to my liking. I’m not a hothead fringe lunatic who wants to send dems to the political gallows like the right wants to do as soon as someone disagrees with Trump - I still like Joe Manchin for instance - but goddamn these democrats have been floundering since the SOTU honeymoon was over last year.

Tim Walz is making the rounds and I’m so glad he’s not staying in the background. He’s been the best voice I’ve heard so far. I can’t believe Americans passed him and Harris up for the freak show.
 
JFC that’s bang on. Just came in here to b*tch and moan about Schumer and Jeffries.

“Is it time for new leadership in the senate?”
Jeffries: “Next question.”

That’s not the Leader Jeffries I know, and for that weak-ass answer to come out of his mouth when people at home have the same question is as insulting and useless as those goofy-ass “town halls” republicans are running away from. That answer at this time? Weak and disappointing.

I don’t entirely fault Schumer for going this route, and he explained it a little, but not enough to my liking. I’m not a hothead fringe lunatic who wants to send dems to the political gallows like the right wants to do as soon as someone disagrees with Trump - I still like Joe Manchin for instance - but goddamn these democrats have been floundering since the SOTU honeymoon was over last year.

Tim Walz is making the rounds and I’m so glad he’s not staying in the background. He’s been the best voice I’ve heard so far. I can’t believe Americans passed him and Harris up for the freak show.
Also glad to see Walz out there making the rounds. On the face of it Schumer is just another politician caving to Musk and Trump who are essentially dismanling the Government as we know it.

At the moment there is nobody who will stand up to them and the actual people of this country have zero representation unless they're in the top 1%. Democrats are completely useless right now and IMO it will be up to the people to stand up for themselves.
 
On the face of it Schumer is just another politician caving to Musk and Trump who are essentially dismanling the Government as we know it.

One thing that should give us hope is that doge is run by an ATFM who is tearing shit apart with gleeful abandon: he will inevitably yank out a crucial piece the absence of which will break their ability to implement the jack-booted tyranny they so crave.
 
Also glad to see Walz out there making the rounds. On the face of it Schumer is just another politician caving to Musk and Trump who are essentially dismanling the Government as we know it.

At the moment there is nobody who will stand up to them and the actual people of this country have zero representation unless they're in the top 1%. Democrats are completely useless right now and IMO it will be up to the people to stand up for themselves.

Because this comparison never gets old....If Democrats were the opposition party in Nazi Germany when the reichstag fire was in full blaze they'd be going "Well, let's go in there and try to negotiate some legislation because that's what our constituents want."

At this point the Democrats are even more corrupt than the Republicans. Republicans are running on full ideology right now. When Democrats are handed many easy popular resistance points they'd rather be complicit in burning it all down than upsetting wealthy donors.
 
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May be time for a Trump-like changing of the guard on the democrat side. Preferably with someone not a fake game show host, nearing the age of 80, dumb as a dingleberry or made to look like an obese orange troll doll.

I mean, we have two unstable Nazi sympathizers running the government with the full-throated support of the entire GOP establishment and Supreme Court, and the best democrats can do is - nothing, it seems. At least yet, and I don’t see it getting easier.

It is up to the people. Maybe that’s how it should be anyways. The more things change…

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Looks good on paper, I like the idea. Tim Walz said he’s doing it. Bernie’s doing it. Time to get busy.

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Buttigieg has roughly 2-3 years to come up with a credible plan for a presidential campaign. It's great that he's apparently starting to game it out now. Hopefully he'll be able to snag Axelrod for his campaign strategist/advisor.

By the time election primaries come around early/mid 2028, I suspect the US will be in such a mess with an imbecile at the helm, that Buttigieg will have a decent chance (running against vance or trump sons), similar to Obama back in 2008.
 
Buttigieg has roughly 2-3 years to come up with a credible plan for a presidential campaign. It's great that he's apparently starting to game it out now. Hopefully he'll be able to snag Axelrod for his campaign strategist/advisor.

By the time election primaries come around early/mid 2028, I suspect the US will be in such a mess with an imbecile at the helm, that Buttigieg will have a decent chance (running against vance or trump sons), similar to Obama back in 2008.
I love the guy but he's way too nice to ever make it in this country. Values and decency are not things the American people want anything to do with. I know I'm sour on things right now but Trump and those who voted for him have shaken my last ounce of faith in anything to do with this fucked up country.
 
Many people living on the margins who voted for trump, based solely on his claims of immediately ending inflation and lowering the prices of food and other high cost-of-living essentials, will remember his lies.

Come election time in 2028 the country will be in an even greater mess than it is now, exacerbated by the mass firings and shutdowns going on, and other trump nonsense continuing into the future with even more unpredictable consequences.

People will who voted for trump in 2024 believed he would help turn their lives around while also promising to get rid of “waste, fraud, and abuse” will remember it all being a sham in 2028.

I can’t think of a better time for someone thoughtful/intelligent/wise/articulate, and genuinely caring like Buttigieg, to run in 2028. And win against vance/trump-sons who will be peddling the same sky-is-falling deep state bullshit as trump did in 2024.

It might even be like Obama winning big time in 2008, by a margin of 192 electoral votes over McCain.
 
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